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A few years ago I had come up with a few DWR variations called the Split Wedding Ring. Members on here really liked it, but I never was able to figure out how to actually piece it. I tried going back to that idea a few days ago (along with another DWR variation I never showed called the Quadruple Bypass) and ended up accidently coming up with a different idea---one that might actually work.
Bear with me. I just whipped this up in EQ5 so its not exactly perfect. [IMG]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...eddingRing.jpg[/IMG] In theory I think this could actually be acheived with regular DWR templates and some strip piecing. Whatcha think? |
The pieces of the arcs are not straight cuts - they're angled to create the curve. So you wouldn't be able to make a strip set and cut the shapes out.
Timely - someone just asked this exact question yesterday. After you made the arc, you could piece the black thin strip to it, and then attach them to the square as one piece. |
Originally Posted by MTS
The pieces of the arcs are not straight cuts - they're angled to create the curve. So you wouldn't be able to make a strip set and cut the shapes out.
Timely - someone just asked this exact question yesterday. |
If you get the pattern worked out I'd be happy to test it for you. I like your idea. I would PP the arcs.
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Originally Posted by Flying_V_Goddess
I know that the pieces are curved. Hmmm...give me a little bit and I'll create some sort of diagram to show what I meant by strip piecing.
That absolutely could work. |
I think I understand your concept, but I'm not sure how you could do multiple arcs from a single strip set.
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Do you mean strip piece the red to the black, and the pink to the black - then out of those strips cut your poly's from the two strips?
One thought is that you will have more waste. The black is on the inside curve only, so all of your poly's will be the same direction, and not all will be the same size - you couldn't flip the strip (like you would a tumbler pattern). |
Quite unique!
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I really like your design I have been working on archs and
have been PP them. |
Originally Posted by MTS
Originally Posted by Flying_V_Goddess
I know that the pieces are curved. Hmmm...give me a little bit and I'll create some sort of diagram to show what I meant by strip piecing.
That absolutely could work. I was thinking it could be done a little easier by making a strip set (one black, one red) that's as wide at the DWR unit, placing the DWR unit template on top (lining the narrower part up with the edge of the black fabric), and cutting out the piece from there. This way there wouldn't be double the templates: one for the top half of the unit and one forthe bottom half of the unit. Again, I did say in theory so it may not work this way. |
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DWR arc from parallel strips
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Ah, so the black isn't additional in terms of proportions - it would now be a part of the original sized arc.....Got it.
On further thought...when you sew the pieces together to form the arc, the top(red) and bottom (black) of the arc will have a very smooth curve. However, the curve on the color change might be a little choppy because you're not curving the black where it meets the red. Draw two lines on a piece of copy paper about an 3/4" apart. One represents the color change seam between the red and black, and the other is the bottom of the strip set, which would be the bottom of the black strip. Now cut some pieces out with the bottom of your template lined up to the lower line. When you put them next to each other (taking into consideration the seam allowances), there will not be a nice smooth line for the color change seam, right? The lines will match up piece to piece, but it's not a smooth curve. If that doesn't bother you, then fine, proceed. If it does, then you'd have to add the black as a whole separate piece, with one long curved seam (not a big deal) joining the two sections. |
Originally Posted by MTS
Ah, so the black isn't additional in terms of proportions - it would now be a part of the original sized arc.....Got it.
On further thought...when you sew the pieces together to form the arc, the top(red) and bottom (black) of the arc will have a very smooth curve. However, the curve on the color change might be a little choppy because you're not curving the black where it meets the red. Draw two lines on a piece of copy paper about an 3/4" apart. One represents the color change seam between the red and black, and the other is the bottom of the strip set, which would be the bottom of the black strip. Now cut some pieces out with the bottom of your template lined up to the lower line. When you put them next to each other (taking into consideration the seam allowances), there will not be a nice smooth line for the color change seam, right? The lines will match up piece to piece, but it's not a smooth curve. If that doesn't bother you, then fine, proceed. If it does, then you'd have to add the black as a whole separate piece, with one long curved seam (not a big deal) joining the two sections. Tried it out. I think it is a bit choppy this way. So it looks like the second color is going to have to be added on separately to get that nice curve. Question is what would be the easiest way to go. You could piece together the black and red units into two separate arcs and then piece them together in one big seam. Or you could do it unit by unit...take a red piece and combine it with a black piece to create one regular sized DWR unit, keep doing that until you have enough units to create the arc, and then just piece the units together like you normally would in a standard pieced DWR. By the way, the black part is also pieced too. I'm getting the feeling that some of you think the second color would be made from one solid piece of fabric. |
Originally Posted by Flying_V_Goddess
By the way, the black part is also pieced too. I'm getting the feeling that some of you think the second color would be made from one solid piece of fabric.
Hmmm. Ok, plan C. More excess fabric - I don't use the term waste because I can't be bothered accounting for every 1" of fabric I don't use. How about you cut entire arcs from each of the two different reds - albeit a bit thinner because you'll be using black - and an entire arc from each of the two blacks (also thinner than the regular sized arc). Now sew Red1 to Black1 with a curved seam. This section can then be used to cut out the real pieces with the template. You'd have a smooth red/black curved seam, and the smaller black pieces would be attached already. Then do the same for Red2/Black2. Yes, there's be waste. But it's either going to be wasted time or fabric. ;-) Does that sound like it would work? |
i like the idea. however, they way you've put together the pieces that meet, i think would be hard to sew together. do you think you could try something different on the intersections?
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Originally Posted by MTS
Originally Posted by Flying_V_Goddess
By the way, the black part is also pieced too. I'm getting the feeling that some of you think the second color would be made from one solid piece of fabric.
Hmmm. Ok, plan C. More excess fabric - I don't use the term waste because I can't be bothered accounting for every 1" of fabric I don't use. How about you cut entire arcs from each of the two different reds - albeit a bit thinner because you'll be using black - and an entire arc from each of the two blacks (also thinner than the regular sized arc). Now sew Red1 to Black1 with a curved seam. This section can then be used to cut out the real pieces with the template. You'd have a smooth red/black curved seam, and the smaller black pieces would be attached already. Then do the same for Red2/Black2. Yes, there's be waste. But it's either going to be wasted time or fabric. ;-) Does that sound like it would work? Cut one solid arc from Fabric A (red) and one solid arc from fabric B (black) sew the arcs together. Then cut the indivual units from the arc. Repeat with the other two fabrics. Finally, piece together the units like you normally would in DWR quilt, alternating the units. That sounds like it would work. :) Sounds like it'd take the shortest amount of time and waste the least amount of fabric. |
Well, I don't think the red and black would have to be full sized arcs(width-wise).
As long as you have the seam allowances (top/bottom) plus some wiggle room, that should be enough. I mean, you don't have measure to the thread. ;-) You should also have enough seam allowances on each side because you're really only cutting 1/2 the pieces for the arc (or as many as you can get out of one). And I strongly suggest you try it with two scrap fabrics to make sure it would work. It should also give you an idea of how large to cut the arcs for the red and black fabrics. Theoretically, it should work. |
Originally Posted by MTS
Well, I don't think the red and black would have to be full sized arcs(width-wise).
As long as you have the seam allowances (top/bottom) plus some wiggle room, that should be enough. I mean, you don't have measure to the thread. ;-) You should also have enough seam allowances on each side because you're really only cutting 1/2 the pieces for the arc (or as many as you can get out of one). And I strongly suggest you try it with two scrap fabrics to make sure it would work. It should also give you an idea of how large to cut the arcs for the red and black fabrics. Theoretically, it should work. I'll have to get some DWR templates to test this out |
Cheryl Phillips' version is done with straight strips sewn together and an arc template placed over the strips to cut. It looks good and is close, but not exactly curved as a traditionally made block is. Perhaps you would be satisfied with her method? It is published in a book called "The Rings That Bind".
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I really like your design
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Another quilting temptation? I swore I would never make another DWR (AKA quilt from hell). But your design in intriguing.
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Or, according to your drawing, the black arcs look like they could be attached to the melon edge instead of the pieced arc. You could still use regular DWR templates for the arcs and corner pieces that way and get the two color effect in your drawing from EQ. Great idea but lots of work either way. Let us see your progress!
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About 15 years ago, I took a class at the Appalachian Quilt Party at Boone, NC. The double wedding ring quilt class had us to piece strips of varying widths into a piece of fabric then lay a curved arc over it and cut it. The pieces turned out perfectly and the rings looked as they should have.
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Originally Posted by mocha827
Or, according to your drawing, the black arcs look like they could be attached to the melon edge instead of the pieced arc. You could still use regular DWR templates for the arcs and corner pieces that way and get the two color effect in your drawing from EQ. Great idea but lots of work either way. Let us see your progress!
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You might be on to something there, I like your idea.
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A few years back El Burns came up with a DWR using straight pieces. :wink:
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Quilt in a day shows you how to do it with Eleanor Burns Egg Money Quilts.
You sew a certain number of 2 1/2 strips then lay her template over the top and cut round it then you have your arc. I have not explained this very well but go and look on www.quiltinaday.com and look for the videos for Egg Money Quilts and in there they will show you videos of all the quilts in the book. The book of that name comes with the templates I have just bought the book so can confirm that the cardboard templates are there. Good luck. Jenny |
Just thought of something: if I sew two solid arcs together, cut 'em up, and re-piece them together then the arcs would end up smaller length wise because of all the seam allowances of the units. I'd have to create a new solid arc template that factors in the seam allowances of the separate units. I'm thinking that might be trickier to sew since the seam allowances would probably turn that arc into a half circle.
But this method would probably work if one were to make a non-pieced version (two solid fabrics, no indivual units). |
I am simply enthralled by following the way you all are working thru this complex pattern and am so thankful you are sharing it all with us!!
Thank you hugggggggs and smilesssss.... |
For the black just a thought. What if you stitched a piece into the seam that was folded wrong sides together, then appliqued it down. Make sense? Think of it as a strip of binding set into the seam and then appliqued.
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