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Sewing with Batiks
I am working on a project using Batiks, and found when I have to rip out a seam, the needle I'm using creates a big hole, even though I just put a new one in. (Universal 80/12).
I went to a quilt store today, and 3 of the ladies said they all use a Universal, 80/12, also. I looked it up on the internet, and it was suggested to use a "Sharp" or a "Microtex" 70/10. I happened to have a Superior Topstitch 80/12 on hand, (thinking it was a "Sharp"), and I couldn't believe the difference. My sewing machine hummed along like it was gliding through butter. I was wondering what has been your experience with sewing Batiks. Do you use the same needle you use for regular quilter's cotton, or do you switch to a "Sharp". Thanks in advance! |
I always use a sharp needle when sewing cotton or other woven fabrics and a ball point when sewing knits. I was taught when learning to sew that a universal needle is universally good for nothing.
Cari |
I change my needle according to what I'm sewing - Sharp or Microtex for batiks and appliqué, Quilting for layers and piecing (and of course quilting, lol), Topstitch/Metallic for metallics etc. I've recently tried the titanium Topstitch and quite like it. The test will be to see how long it lasts.
As an aside - I was recently at a quilting class. A new lady proudly announced that she'd never had to change a needle in the 25 years or she'd had the machine............. Not often I'm lost for words! :D |
I never use top stitch needles, I use sharps and sometimes universals for general sewing in the size appropriate for the thread I am using. If doing any specialty sewing I use the needle appropriate for the task ( metallic for metallic thread, embroidery, ball point for knits, etc. )
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I use microtex needles to sew batiks. (80 for piecing and 90 for quilting) I love working with batiks.
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Topstitch has a bump on the shaft to open up the fabric and will make a bigger hole. It is used for quilting. You want to use microtex or sharp. It sounds like you might also need a thinner thread like aurifil. I use 80/12 microtex and I use mainly Hoffman or Walmart batiks.
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I use a microtex for almost everything quilting related. I got them for use with batiks, but like the long taper for quilting and they're a dream for accurate piecing. When I first started (early 1970's), the universal needle was, well, universally accepted. Today, there are much more appropriate choices.
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I find out the same way you did that the smaller needle is much better for batiks. I asked at the LQS and they all said the superior threads titanium needle.... I figured out that was a self serving recommendation and changed to the 70/10 and it made a much smaller hole. Sometimes I use a 70/8 and have very good results. the last thing I want when I take out stitching is to have the evidence ( the holes) permanently documenting my error. Unlike regular quilting cotton the holes from a larger needle do not disappear when washed.
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I haven't had any problem with using the "quilting" needles by Schmetz. I haven't used their "universal " in a very long time.
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This is such wonderful education! I've never used batiks, but I bought a bunch that I want to dig into!
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I use a Microtex for piecing and a topstitch for quilting (larger hole so thread does not break) Works great.. I put a sticky note on my machines saying what type of needle I have in (just in case I forget what I was doing last) You need to use a sharp needle for batiks for sure.
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Originally Posted by Knitette
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As an aside - I was recently at a quilting class. A new lady proudly announced that she'd never had to change a needle in the 25 years or she'd had the machine............. Not often I'm lost for words! :D
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Originally Posted by Annaquilts
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Topstitch has a bump on the shaft to open up the fabric and will make a bigger hole. It is used for quilting. You want to use microtex or sharp. It sounds like you might also need a thinner thread like aurifil. I use 80/12 microtex and I use mainly Hoffman or Walmart batiks.
I bet Walmart has better prices on needles....and Batik. Just wondering which Walmart you are able to find Batiks? The ones close to me don't carry fabric. (: I noticed you are in SoCa. |
Originally Posted by Sally J
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I use a Microtex for piecing and a topstitch for quilting (larger hole so thread does not break) Works great.. I put a sticky note on my machines saying what type of needle I have in (just in case I forget what I was doing last) You need to use a sharp needle for batiks for sure.
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I haven't used a different needle when sewing batiks as opposed to regular quilting cottons. I do use a different one for denim and upholstery fabrics. And if I forget I usually regret it!
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As to finding which Walmart in your area has batiks, I've found that the ones with a 'real' fabric section will often have at least a few batiks. Otherwise there may or may not be a few precuts.
This observation is based on shopping in Texas, Colorado and Pennsylvania |
I have several packages of Universal needles--that translates into about 20. I feel like I need to use them up. I don't know how I got so many !!! I thought Universal meant use for everything. Before I found this site and got educated about needles. When I get my supply whittled down, I want to try titanium needles. I have some blades for my cutter, and they last forever. Love them.
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Originally Posted by Girlfriend
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This absolutely blows my mind. How were you able not to say anything? LOL. I've never heard of anything so outrageous.
Ha! I agree! I would bet it's never been serviced either... :eek: I loved the titanium needles, but my brother machine, not so much. I'll have to try them in my bernina and see if she likes them. :) When y'all change needle size, do you change your thread as well? And do you use different threads when working with batiks? |
The thing that blows me away - those that think "universal" means it will work with any sewing machine. I've got 65 non-Singer vintage machines, and need about 15 different needle styles to fit them all.
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Originally Posted by Knitette
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......As an aside - I was recently at a quilting class. A new lady proudly announced that she'd never had to change a needle in the 25 years or she'd had the machine............. Not often I'm lost for words! :D
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Thank you for this thread as I will be working with batiks soon.
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In my never ending quest to get that illusive "scant" 1/4 inch I had read use aurfil thread with a 70/10 needle. Did make a difference...couldn't believe it but it did!
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I also use a 70/10 needle when machine embroidering lettering.
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I use a Microtex sharp for everything.
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I agree, the smaller needle is great for batiks.
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I just started machine appliqueing some hexagons onto some background squares and I changed to a top stitch needle and couldn't believe the difference it made. The needle went through the fabric just like butter too.
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I agree with Kinette about using a needle appropriate for what you are sewing. Batiks are more closely woven than other cotton fabrics, so you should definitely use a sharp when sewing on them. I was taught that you use the ball point needles when sewing on knits, as they would not "catch" on the fabric. Hope this helps a little. Can't wait to see your finished quilt, as batiks are some of my favorite fabrics for quilting.
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These days I use the Superior Titanium needle called for by the Superior thread I'm using as the top thread. Perfect results every time.
With one or two exceptions, every project I make has batiks in it. I love them and they sew up beautifully if you pay attention to using the correct threads/needles! The last time I forgot to change to the correct needle, I ended up frogging the same spot at least six times trying to get the decorative stitch to sew correctly. The holes in the batik looked like they would never wash out and I'd have to make a whole new "mug rug". I am very happy to say the holes disappeared when I washed the "mug rug". Whew! |
This board is a "wealth" of good information. Thanks to you all.
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Thank you to all who wrote on this thread...I learned a lot!
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