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LavenderBlue 06-24-2012 02:07 PM

Sewline Pencil or Fons & Porter Ceramic Pencil? Pls. weigh in.
 
Any preference? Pros and cons? THX

EasyPeezy 06-24-2012 02:12 PM

I use Sewline and like it a lot. Haven't tried the other brand.
You always have to make a test as some colors might not come off on some fabric.
Hasn't been a problem for me as I haven't used it where it will show.

ghostrider 06-24-2012 02:36 PM

I, too, use Sewline and have not tried any others (F&P or Bohin). I only use the white and grey leads and have had no problems with the markings coming off (I use water, not an eraser, cuz it does less stretching to the fabric). Been using it over 2 years and recommend it often.

brushandthimble 06-24-2012 03:17 PM

I LOVE the Bohin pencil, I use all the different colors, green probably the most, then white or graphite, yellow if I need it. Truth to tell all I used was a mechanical pencil until I used one; now I have about 3.

Freddie 06-24-2012 04:24 PM

I use F & P, white and grey. Love them.

LynnVT 06-24-2012 04:30 PM

Just yesterday I went to Keepsake Quilting in New Hampshire looking for a marker to use on a black background quilt. Since F&P own the store now, there was a great selection of their stuff. Someone told me once before those are great markers, but they cost about $15. I bought a different brand for about $3, since I rarely need a white marker.

grammysharon 06-24-2012 05:30 PM

I use the Fons and Porter also, I love them!!!

Originally Posted by Freddie (Post 5314163)
I use F & P, white and grey. Love them.


cmrenno 06-24-2012 05:32 PM

I have both the Sewline and F&P and I can't tell the difference. I like them both!

Colleen

quiltnmore 06-24-2012 05:58 PM

I have noticed that it is now hard to find the colored lead, probably because I and others have had trouble getting them to wash out of the quilt. I have both brands and it is so much easier to mark the quilt with them.

happyquiltmom 06-24-2012 06:23 PM

I have a Fons & Porter pencil that I refill with Sewline leads (because that's the brand the LQS where I work carries now. They are interchangeable.) I have green, white and pink leads and switch them out, depending on what color fabric I'm marking. We use the Sewline pencil at the shop and carry all colors of leads, plus the separate eraser and refills.

Holice 06-24-2012 06:34 PM

they are the same F&P, Sewline, Bolin, Collins However, i never recommend colored leads because too often they don't come out of the fabric - only white and perhaps the graphite color. I suspect they are all made in the same Factory in France.

OHSue 06-24-2012 07:03 PM

I have a Sewline. But I took a applique class with Ami Simms and she gave us an inexpensive Bic Pencil and it had the Sewline pencil lead in it, so save yourself the money of the pen and just stock up on lead for it. The pencil will say 0.9 mm on it and that is the same size as the lead from Sewline and Bohn, not sure about F&P. I really like them, haven't had trouble with markings not coming out.

Freddie 06-25-2012 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by OHSue (Post 5314601)
I have a Sewline. But I took a applique class with Ami Simms and she gave us an inexpensive Bic Pencil and it had the Sewline pencil lead in it, so save yourself the money of the pen and just stock up on lead for it. The pencil will say 0.9 mm on it and that is the same size as the lead from Sewline and Bohn, not sure about F&P. I really like them, haven't had trouble with markings not coming out.

The F & P leads I have are 0.7mm. I bought a generic pen for the leads also.

NJ Quilter 06-25-2012 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by brushandthimble (Post 5314019)
I LOVE the Bohin pencil, I use all the different colors, green probably the most, then white or graphite, yellow if I need it. Truth to tell all I used was a mechanical pencil until I used one; now I have about 3.

I have the Bohin as well and use it with the white leads. Otherwise still just use a regular old mechanical pencil and have never had issues with either washing out.

Holice 06-25-2012 04:35 AM

I have used the ceramic lead in regular mechanical pencils. The only difference I have found is that the Brand pencil holder has a short "sleeve" around the tip of the lead which gives it a bit more strength. I didn't try and find a pencil holder like the "brand" but am sure it is out there. It took me a bit of time to find the right mm tho. But in a class we used the substitute successfully.

SueSew 06-25-2012 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by LynnVT (Post 5314180)
Just yesterday I went to Keepsake Quilting in New Hampshire looking for a marker to use on a black background quilt. Since F&P own the store now, there was a great selection of their stuff. Someone told me once before those are great markers, but they cost about $15. I bought a different brand for about $3, since I rarely need a white marker.

No wonder all their emails now are pushing F&P everything. Ahah.

Val in IN 06-25-2012 05:32 AM

I have both F&P and Bohin. I like them both equally. My LQS sells several colors of refills. Haven't had any problems with either one.

alwayslearning 06-25-2012 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by LynnVT (Post 5314180)
Just yesterday I went to Keepsake Quilting in New Hampshire looking for a marker to use on a black background quilt. Since F&P own the store now, there was a great selection of their stuff. Someone told me once before those are great markers, but they cost about $15. I bought a different brand for about $3, since I rarely need a white marker.

I am sad to hear that F & P has bought Keepsake Quilting. I have been disappointed with F & P quality so would now hesitate to continue patronizing Keepsake, where I used to want to live someday!

grocifer 06-25-2012 01:34 PM

I have the F&Porter Mechanical Pencil and loved using the white to mark a quilt. Only problem was refilling -- it took me forever each time as the lead would not stay down--every time I would press on it to mark, it would retract. Finally the lead would never stay down so I gave up and bought another. I wrote F&P about the problem but never received a response. Keep meaning to take it back to Joann's to see if they would replace it without a receipt. Other than that I loved it. It didn't leave any residual marks on the quilt but I only marked one days worth at a time.

ghostrider 06-25-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by alwayslearning (Post 5315462)
I am sad to hear that F & P has bought Keepsake Quilting. I have been disappointed with F & P quality so would now hesitate to continue patronizing Keepsake, where I used to want to live someday!

Why would that have any effect on the quality of goods at Keepsake? Their fabrics are all name brands, they put together their own kits using those name brand fabrics, their sales people and website people are some of the very best in the business, and other than possibly limiting the choices in notions, I don't see why you suddenly won't shop there. I never buy F&P and I don't plan to start, but I'm certainly not going to stop my frequent visits to Keepsake Quilting unless/until they give me a concrete reason to do so. They're innocent until proven guilty in my book. :)

anita211 06-26-2012 05:02 AM

I use the Sewline and love it. I have had no problems removing marks.

Steady Stiching 06-26-2012 05:14 AM

I love my Bohn

jac 06-26-2012 06:09 AM

F & P Keepsake.
 

Originally Posted by LynnVT (Post 5314180)
Just yesterday I went to Keepsake Quilting in New Hampshire looking for a marker to use on a black background quilt. Since F&P own the store now, there was a great selection of their stuff. Someone told me once before those are great markers, but they cost about $15. I bought a different brand for about $3, since I rarely need a white marker.

I didn't know that F & P bought out Keepsake Quilting. When did that happen?

ghostrider 06-26-2012 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by jac (Post 5317879)
I didn't know that F & P bought out Keepsake Quilting. When did that happen?

Keepsake Quilting and her three sister shops weren't purchased by Fons & Porter, they were purchased by New Track Media, LLC...who also owns QNN TV, all the 'Original Sewing and Quilting Expos', multiple quilting and scrapbooking magazines (Quilters Newsletter, McCall's, F&P, Quiltmaker, etc), Quilters Club of America and a pile of other stuff. They are the largest crafts media business in the United States...after only 6 years.

The Keepsake founders retired and sold the business to The Riverside Company in 2000. New Track Media acquired it from Riverside in 2007. If you haven't noticed changes by now, it probably won't make much of a difference now that you know about it. :)

New Track Media's list of products. http://newtrackmedia.com/product.html

ETA: Rob O'Brian, the 'boss' at Keepsake since 2004 is still the 'boss' at Keepsake...and a member of this message board, as is the store manager.

cmw0829 06-26-2012 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by LynnVT (Post 5314180)
Just yesterday I went to Keepsake Quilting in New Hampshire looking for a marker to use on a black background quilt. Since F&P own the store now, there was a great selection of their stuff. Someone told me once before those are great markers, but they cost about $15. I bought a different brand for about $3, since I rarely need a white marker.

Fons and Porter owns the store? So sad that a small business can't stay independent these days. Now I know why I was getting Fons and Porter related emails from KQ.

But to answer the question, I've used the F&P pencil and like it. I bought a pack of the gray leads to interchange when needed.

cny_sewer39 06-26-2012 09:05 AM

I have not used any of them. Sorry. I will be following this thread.

Have a blessed day.

debra

burchquilts 06-26-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Freddie (Post 5314163)
I use F & P, white and grey. Love them.

Me, too. Of course, I think all of F & P's tools are awesome.

ghostrider 06-26-2012 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by cmw0829 (Post 5318273)
Fons and Porter owns the store? So sad that a small business can't stay independent these days. Now I know why I was getting Fons and Porter related emails from KQ.

Read my post above yours. Fons & Porter does NOT own Keepsake Quilting; both are owned by the same mega-company and have been for many years.

cmw0829 06-26-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by ghostrider (Post 5318657)
Read my post above yours. Fons & Porter does NOT own Keepsake Quilting; both are owned by the same mega-company and have been for many years.

Thanks for pointing that out, Ghost. I missed that post.

Handcraftsbyjen 06-26-2012 05:45 PM

I'd choose Sewline or Bohin. Fons and Porter I don't like at all. Try writing your name with each one and see what one you like best. Writing your name is a good way to try out any pencil or something to write with while quilting.

nstitches4u 06-26-2012 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by LynnVT (Post 5314180)
Just yesterday I went to Keepsake Quilting in New Hampshire looking for a marker to use on a black background quilt. Since F&P own the store now, there was a great selection of their stuff. Someone told me once before those are great markers, but they cost about $15. I bought a different brand for about $3, since I rarely need a white marker.

I didn't know that Fons and Porter owned Keepsake Quilting. This board is a wealth of information! lol

ghostrider 06-27-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by nstitches4u (Post 5319633)
I didn't know that Fons and Porter owned Keepsake Quilting. This board is a wealth of information! lol

It doesn't. Stop this rumor...PLEASE. The ownership was explained above.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1...ml#post5318131

MarleneC 06-27-2012 05:03 PM

I haven't used the F&P pencils but have the Sewline pencil and all the color leads to interchange. I really like the narrow line it makes instead of chalk and other disappearing pens/pencils I've used.

barbrose 06-28-2012 05:32 AM

Where do you get Sewline from?

emlee51 06-28-2012 03:48 PM

Use the F&P...brushes right off when FMQing. Also great on darker fabrics when making 1/2 square triangles.

anita211 06-29-2012 06:20 AM

I got mine on the recommendation of one of my LQS. I have seen them at several of the other LQS that I go to once in awhile. I picked up yellow "lead" at one of them. I really do like Sewline.

LynnVT 07-05-2012 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by ghostrider (Post 5318131)
Keepsake Quilting and her three sister shops weren't purchased by Fons & Porter, they were purchased by New Track Media, LLC...who also owns QNN TV, all the 'Original Sewing and Quilting Expos', multiple quilting and scrapbooking magazines (Quilters Newsletter, McCall's, F&P, Quiltmaker, etc), Quilters Club of America and a pile of other stuff. They are the largest crafts media business in the United States...after only 6 years.
***

The Keepsake founders retired and sold the business to The Riverside Company in 2000. New Track Media acquired it from Riverside in 2007. If you haven't noticed changes by now, it probably won't make much of a difference now that you know about it. :)

New Track Media's list of products. http://newtrackmedia.com/product.html

ETA: Rob O'Brian, the 'boss' at Keepsake since 2004 is still the 'boss' at Keepsake...and a member of this message board, as is the store manager.

My apologies for passing on an untruth. It was a classic rumor, I guess. My sister heard it from her quilting teacher, and who knows where she got it. Anyway, the store and catalog do seem to be focusing more on kits and precuts than on yardage, but that is a trend everywhere, I think. They still have lots of great fabrics to choose from and most importantly, their personnel are still wonderful. This trip I really liked that they moved the sale room up front and had lots of great items in it. I haven't been there in a few years.
So again: FONS AND PORTER DID NOT BUY KEEPSAKE!
Lynn

jodiemarlin 07-11-2013 01:02 PM

I have the Sewline pencil with three colors of lead in it - pink, white, and black. I love the way it makes a nice sharp, easy to see line, BUT, I just finished a quilt where I used the black lead on a red Moda fabric and it looks like it's not going to come out. Plain water did nothing to remove it, so it's in the washing machine. I checked it once while it was filling up for the rinse cycle and most of the lines are still there. If they are still visible after this washing, I'm going to try a stain remover and wash again.

Oh, and in case you are wondering, no I didn't iron over the lines. :)

Ugh! Live and learn.

Jodie

jodiemarlin 07-13-2013 08:52 AM

Update to my post above: After the first wash I could still see the black marks from the Sewline pencil, yikes!, so I sprayed them all with Spray and Wash and washed again. Unfortunately, I could still see them after the second wash. Thinking I was stuck with them, I put the quilt into the dryer, BUT, it came out of the dryer with no marks whatsoever! Yay!!!

I bought a pack of washable Crayola markers yesterday and tried all 8 colors on some all cotton Moda fabric. The colors came out with plain water. I may try them on a "practice" quilt to see what happens.

Hope someone finds my info helpful. :)

Jodie


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