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LOL...my quilts are not good enough for museums and I hope my kids use the quilts and wash them often. If they get worn...I will make them another...hopefully I have many years of quilting ahead of me and only two grown boys so they will be getting quite a few quilts from me...
Originally Posted by Laura22
I mostly pin baste, but I love that I can spray baste in situations where a bit of a hurry is needed. Of course, I want people to cuddle my quilts. I want them to get washed over and over and snuggled around tiny babies. I don't want them to sit in a museum or still be perfectly preserved generations from now ;)
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Originally Posted by girlsfour
After reading all I have about spray basting. I am going try it! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by jaciqltznok
This is a rather old article, but would you believe it is the only published on this subject. The results were published in Quilter's newsletter magazine in 2005!
http://aic.stanford.edu/jaic/article...44-01-003.html Here is a quick run down on their conclusion! "Fusible battings appear to be an acceptable commercial adhesive-containing product for quilts intended as heirlooms or for sale to collectors or museums. "All the quilt-basting sprays, except Spray and Fix (505 - Lisa~), were associated with significant yellowing or strength losses following both shorter and longer periods of heat-aging and light exposure. "Fusible webs, while acceptable for quilts intended to last for a lifetime, could not be recommended for quilts intended to be handed down from generation to generation or for studio art quilts intended for sale to serious collectors or museums." There is one other note to consider. Have your read the ingredients on the can? DId you know they are not required to list ALL of the ingredients? Several of them contain cancer agents. Hence the ORMD label! |
Originally Posted by moreland
Originally Posted by jaciqltznok
This is a rather old article, but would you believe it is the only published on this subject. The results were published in Quilter's newsletter magazine in 2005!
http://aic.stanford.edu/jaic/article...44-01-003.html Here is a quick run down on their conclusion! "Fusible battings appear to be an acceptable commercial adhesive-containing product for quilts intended as heirlooms or for sale to collectors or museums. "All the quilt-basting sprays, except Spray and Fix (505 - Lisa~), were associated with significant yellowing or strength losses following both shorter and longer periods of heat-aging and light exposure. "Fusible webs, while acceptable for quilts intended to last for a lifetime, could not be recommended for quilts intended to be handed down from generation to generation or for studio art quilts intended for sale to serious collectors or museums." There is one other note to consider. Have your read the ingredients on the can? DId you know they are not required to list ALL of the ingredients? Several of them contain cancer agents. Hence the ORMD label! |
I'm going to try it....a quilting teacher I had swore by it. She covered a wall with papers I think and pinned the backing then sprayed and layered batting and top. She said it was very easy smoothing the wrinkles out.
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I use the spray all the time but I lay a large old sheet on the floor to catch the over spray. I make baby quilts and they get washed a ton so I don't think the spray stays in very long.
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I love spray basting but be careful which one you use - June Taylor or the one in the pink can work best. Light spray is all you need
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Originally Posted by Brenda
When I spray baste I hang the top and backing on the
clothesline to spray. This takes care of residue on the floors and carpeting, and ventilation too. Brenda from Wadesville, In |
Sure a lot easier on the old body, isn't it?!
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There are a bunch of comments about not worrying about using spray basting because one doesn't expect one's quilt to end up in a museum. There are other reasons not to use it, though. Some people (myself included) try to minimize our exposure to unnecessary chemicals, usually for either health or environmental reasons, or both. That's why, even though it's much easier, I won't use it. I don't consider myself a quilting purist - not at all - I just don't like using unnecessary chemicals. Oh, and I'm a chemist.
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Originally Posted by Mattee
There are a bunch of comments about not worrying about using spray basting because one doesn't expect one's quilt to end up in a museum. There are other reasons not to use it, though. Some people (myself included) try to minimize our exposure to unnecessary chemicals, usually for either health or environmental reasons, or both. That's why, even though it's much easier, I won't use it. I don't consider myself a quilting purist - not at all - I just don't like using unnecessary chemicals. Oh, and I'm a chemist.
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Originally Posted by moreland
Originally Posted by jaciqltznok
This is a rather old article, but would you believe it is the only published on this subject. The results were published in Quilter's newsletter magazine in 2005!
http://aic.stanford.edu/jaic/article...44-01-003.html Here is a quick run down on their conclusion! "Fusible battings appear to be an acceptable commercial adhesive-containing product for quilts intended as heirlooms or for sale to collectors or museums. "All the quilt-basting sprays, except Spray and Fix (505 - Lisa~), were associated with significant yellowing or strength losses following both shorter and longer periods of heat-aging and light exposure. "Fusible webs, while acceptable for quilts intended to last for a lifetime, could not be recommended for quilts intended to be handed down from generation to generation or for studio art quilts intended for sale to serious collectors or museums." There is one other note to consider. Have your read the ingredients on the can? DId you know they are not required to list ALL of the ingredients? Several of them contain cancer agents. Hence the ORMD label! (This thread is the most debate I have seen on the board so far..Good for discussion but ladies, lighten up. lol) |
Originally Posted by LivelyLady
I'm going to try it....a quilting teacher I had swore by it. She covered a wall with papers I think and pinned the backing then sprayed and layered batting and top. She said it was very easy smoothing the wrinkles out.
I should add, though, that I am doing almost all mine with fleece (heavy, not thin) backing and no batting. And I can work from top to bottom, folding over what I've done then lift a new section onto the bed. It doesn't seem too hard to keep things pretty straight, however, I do self-binding with the fleece so do some trimming after I get the quilting done. It doesn't take much just enough to anchor things so it washes easily. I used to do the backing, batting, and tops but I've gotten so I send that kind to my LAQ. |
June Taylor is the one I used...my husband said he did not smell anything. I smelled a slightly but only while I was spraying it. It worked like a charm!!! No pins!!! I left it over night and had no issues, it did not hurt my needle at all and its not stiff.
Originally Posted by steelecg
I love spray basting but be careful which one you use - June Taylor or the one in the pink can work best. Light spray is all you need
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Can anyone please explain a little more on layering the quilt on the wall? I am working on a king size and am not at all looking forward to crawling on the floor again, it nearly killed me before. I like the idea of using a wall, but not sure how to do it. I appreciate any help I can get.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UoUzK19Vww
here is a video on wall basting |
livleylady, can you explain a little more on layering the quilt on the wall? I am very new to quilting, have made a king size and 2 crib sizes. I used the floor for the king size and a table for the other two. I am working on another king size now and am not at all looking forward to crawling on the floor again, it nearly killed me before. I like the idea of using a wall, but not sure how to do it. I appreciate any help I can get.
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I just posted a video..on how to do bast on the wall.
Originally Posted by susanwilley
livleylady, can you explain a little more on layering the quilt on the wall? I am very new to quilting, have made a king size and 2 crib sizes. I used the floor for the king size and a table for the other two. I am working on another king size now and am not at all looking forward to crawling on the floor again, it nearly killed me before. I like the idea of using a wall, but not sure how to do it. I appreciate any help I can get.
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Spray basting is the best! I was leary at first, but no more. Ventilation is always the rule when using any kind of spray product, just common sense.
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Thanks so much Caro! That video is a big help!
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I just spray basted two quilts and used my bernina stitch regulator to free motion quilt them. I used the 505 and it worked good - but after so much manipulation the corners kind of came loose so I now have a habit of checking the corners very well before quilting. However - I was a bit concerned about using it - and I think my next one will be pin basted. I hate the idea of pin holes in my quilt. Is this an unnecessary concern? Or should I thread baste the quilt. It sure was easy to spray baste it. And I don't want to send it to anyone else to do anything to it. Opinions on methods other than spray basting?
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When I read how toxic the adhesive spray is I did not use it. It frightened me!
Originally Posted by jaciqltznok
I am always amazed at how/why people choose to use a petroleum based product on a living fiber!
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Originally Posted by frugalfabrics
I use to spray baste all my smaller quilts, and my one table has the residue to prove it. I always thought I was being careful and spraying only within the center of it, but somehow that spray would get everywhere on my cutting table.
To this date, I am unable to scrub that bumpy feeling off my table...it's not sticky, just bumpy. |
Originally Posted by sew inspired
(This thread is the most debate I have seen on the board so far..Good for discussion but ladies, lighten up. lol)
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[quote=roxannebcb] but after so much manipulation the corners kind of came loose so I now have a habit of checking the corners very well before quilting. quote]
I have put a few pins in the edges/corners of a large piece that I am manuplating alot. Just a few on the edges. |
Originally Posted by roxannebcb
I hate the idea of pin holes in my quilt. Is this an unnecessary concern? Or should I thread baste the quilt.
However, if you do pin baste, do not worry about the holes... they will close up just like needle holes do when you wash it! |
I love the spray basting. I put newspaper on the garage floor and do it there....good ventilation...no mess clean-up!! I also always wash the quilt when done. No problems with the needle gumming up either.
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Originally Posted by shequilts
I personally don't like the spray baste because it "gums" up my Bernina. Check out your needle when you use it.
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When I purchased my first can of Sullivan's spray basting my sewing shop lady said don't overspray, it is the natural thing to do because you are afraid it won't hold. She said just a light spray will do just fine. She was right on and no gunk on my needle.
Discussion is good, debate is wonderful; but let's not get too uptight over this - it's bad for our tummies. |
I find I get the best results when I hand baste. I have used basting sprays and pins as well but always go back to hand basting. I do use spray for my machine embroidery though. I really wish I was happier with the other methods cause the extra hand sewing aggravates my carpel tunnel issues.
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I spray baste. IF I had room to pin baste or stitch baste my back wouldn't take it. In my town we don't have anyone that long arms that bastes quilts - not everyone lives where we can just sent out and get the most environmentally friendly whatever.
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I know what you mean! I have bak issues too. there was a time I didn't mind crawling on the floor to pin. even if my knees could take it I probably couldn't straighten up- if i was able to get OFF the floor. some days I feel like I'm falling apart!
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What brand of spray did you use?
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My fingers can't take the pin basting...and I do not enjoy hand sewing at all...so from now on I am spraying...the June Taylor spray did not smell bad and I used a small amount. I will start spraying on the porch, which is all screened in now that I saw that video on wall basting. It was wonderful to sew with no worries about the quilt shifting. I do not want to pay someone to baste my quilts. I want to do the quilts myself. The spray was 12.00 for the can so I doubt someone would want to baste for less than $6.00 a quilt since I did not use 1/4 of the can...
Originally Posted by misseva
I spray baste. IF I had room to pin baste or stitch baste my back wouldn't take it. In my town we don't have anyone that long arms that bastes quilts - not everyone lives where we can just sent out and get the most environmentally friendly whatever.
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I use the June Taylor spray and it does not make the needle gummy. Also, do not find the odor to be overwhelming. A little goes a long way. Also, the window is open and an old sheet is down on the floor.
I have the bent safety pins, to use when necessary but the fingers joints do not like all the movements even with the Kwik opener/closer. Has anyone ever tried Hair Spray? Any thoughts or any name brands that work the best. But most hair sprays [to me] seem even more toxic just hate it when I smell it at the salon. |
You know what to each his or her own in the way we do our quilts.
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hmmm hair spray now that is an interesting idea....why didn't I think of that...; ) I will be interested in seeing the feedback. I have learned a ton from all of the folks here...I did not even know what basting was a few months ago...
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Originally Posted by carolaug
I just sprayed my queen size quilt....first time I have ever tried it...LOVED it...It is now ready for me to start quilting in the morning...if you have never tried spray basting I recommend it...I did do it on my kitchen floor and opened the sliding door for fresh air.
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I love spray basting. I use 505. I let it sit overnight so it dries well before stitching. It does not gum up my needle or machine. I have a large roll of wide craft paper of which I cut looooong pieces off and place slightly under and around the quilt to catch the inevitable overspray. Can't do it when DH is home, he'd have a FIT. I do it in the living room. It washes out of the quilt and leave no residue. BTW, I think 505 is acid free, but not sure.
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omgggg dont you just love it , i have been using the spray for the last 5 or 6 years , i will never go back to pinning
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