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bneuen 09-24-2020 04:51 AM

Square in a square ruler
 
Was wondering if anyone in the forum uses the square in a square method by Jodi Barrows? Iíve had the original ruler for years but Iíve never used it. I watched a webinar yesterday and it looks like it would take a whole new way of thinking. Just wondered if anyone uses it and how well you like it before I would invest in a book. Looking forward to your comments.

Battle Axe 09-24-2020 04:55 AM

I've got that book and have made some attempts at it. True you have to put on your good and tight thinking cap. But some of the them turned out real nice. I think practice makes the difference. You should be able to find that book used on Amazon or eBay.
Marcia

Onebyone 09-24-2020 05:57 AM

There are simpler ways to make square in a square blocks for me. I had that ruler and book but using it never got easier.

sewingpup 09-24-2020 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by bneuen (Post 8420090)
Was wondering if anyone in the forum uses the square in a square method by Jodi Barrows? I’ve had the original ruler for years but I’ve never used it. I watched a webinar yesterday and it looks like it would take a whole new way of thinking. Just wondered if anyone uses it and how well you like it before I would invest in a book. Looking forward to your comments.

I have done a couple of quilts using that method and it is great for using up scraps. I had a basket of thimbleberries fabrics left over from other projects and used up a lot of the small pieces. I did take a class from Jodi at a quilt conference when I was first starting out with making quilts....I should get those rulers out again and give it another whirl. I have several of her other rulers and books. The method does take some getting used to and I would advise starting with one of the beginning projects to get used to the method. I think my first quilt was named something like "wonky stars" the basic unit was a 8 pointed star.

Minnesewta-sam 09-24-2020 07:06 AM

I have several of her books and most of the rulers. Recently I've been watching her live webinars and using some of the information. It takes a lot of practice and patience...but the results are spot on. I'm a big fan of Jodi and the system.

thimblebug6000 09-24-2020 07:52 AM

I also have the ruler and instruction booklet from many years ago... only made one item, which ended up being a pillow cover....I had cut off all the points somehow....but just closed all the gaps with quilting https://cdn.quiltingboard.com/images/smilies/shock.png

Stitchnripper 09-24-2020 07:55 AM

I saw her years ago maybe on simply quilts with Alex Anderson and tried her method with my regular ruler and did get a good result. Iíd have to refresh myself again.

Tartan 09-24-2020 08:43 AM

I do not have that ruler and have forbidden myself to buy anymore specially rulers until I use all the ones still in the packaging.😂

Macybaby 09-24-2020 10:50 AM

I just watched a video on that, and that is what I do using my EZ angle ruler, it has the diagonal lines, but it's much smaller and easier to handle.

Though it's not normally for doing the sq in a sq block, I do them differently. I don't like covered corners, so I figure what the exact size of the inner square has to be and go from there.

P-BurgKay 09-25-2020 06:04 AM

I bought the whole thing. Took a class from Jodi. Made 2 quilts using the rulers. Myself, they are more work then they are worth to me. This is just MHO. I know others love her way. But to me it is a new way of thinking. My aging mind just doesn't have time to learn it. She does have some really good tips though.

bearisgray 09-25-2020 07:18 AM

I watched part of one of her videos on using that ruler.

Her method of attaching rectangles to the sides of a square and trimming them down - seems cumbersome - and wasteful of fabric - to me.

The ruler also looks like something I would have to pay close attention to while using it. Maybe I would put tape on the "where I should line it up" so that I would remember my "target spot".

I have learned to make "test units" before cutting a zillion pieces - especially where/when triangles are involved. Sometimes cutting that triangle 1/16 inch larger (or smaller) makes the difference from not fitting to fitting almost fitting perfectly. (In my world - "perfect" is a word that is right up there with "always" and "never" - just another of my quirks - it happens occasionally, but not often)


platyhiker 09-25-2020 09:47 AM

I also watched part one of her videos, and like bearisgray, I am struck by her method being pretty wasteful of fabric. (It doesn't have to be - at one point in the video she says that one can use triangle scraps, but she demonstrates the method with rectangle strips and then cuts of good sized pieces, and cuts off even more when she shows how to do two rounds around the center square.)

I can see that her method can provide good precision, but there are other ways to get that precision. Personally, that video doesn't make me want to switch from my current methods. I found another video where she shows making half square triangles. The amount of fabric wasted seems quite large to me! The method of making them 8 at a time (slightly oversized and then cutting them down to size) has almost no fabric waste and seems like about the same amount of work.

I find it very interesting to see a quite different approach. I salute people who come up new methods to give people more options of getting the results they want.

RedGarnet222 09-25-2020 10:24 AM

I won a whole set of her rulers and books at a quilt show one year and have yet to have the time to learn it. Sad but true.

hray 09-26-2020 12:18 PM

I was intrigued by Deb Tucker's square-in-a-square ruler. Her methods have very little waste, and I like the precision of making a unit a bit oversize and cutting it down. You can obviously do it with regular rulers, too...which is the reason I haven't bought hers yet. But having the marks to easily position the ruler is a nice idea.

However, I realized this week, if you buy a kit you may not have the option to use her method because the kit dictates the size/shape of the fabric provided. But I do like the convenience of having someone else pick out fabrics that go together.

juliasb 09-26-2020 12:23 PM

I have the ruler but have not used it yet. I am still a bit gun shy to trying out the rulers I recently bought. The square in a square is one of them.

dee1245 09-26-2020 04:21 PM

Square in a square
 
I just watched a video on how to use the ruler. It is a little confusing. I have made these blocks before faster and easier to do.

IowaStitcher 10-04-2020 05:10 AM

I too am a one time user of her ruler/method. Does anyone have suggestions for other uses for this ruler? I am not a fan of 'one trick pony' rulers so don't usually do projects that require a ruler for one technique only.

Hagridsmom 02-03-2021 10:26 PM

what is the difference between the original ruler and the new mini one? The packaging looks the same size and I think you can do fewer options with the newer one. Maybe if someone explained how to do it with the easy angle ruler (hint, hint) it would prove to be enough information to get by without her ruler. Could a pineapple block ruler be used? I think I have 2 different brands of those. I was watching the Rebecca Paige Quilting Summit yesterday and the Quilting Cowboy was showing a quilt in his new fabric line that was done with her method. It piqued my interest in them again. I remember when that first came out!
Thanks for any explanation.

sandy l 02-04-2021 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by platyhiker (Post 8420389)
I also watched part one of her videos, and like bearisgray, I am struck by her method being pretty wasteful of fabric. (It doesn't have to be - at one point in the video she says that one can use triangle scraps, but she demonstrates the method with rectangle strips and then cuts of good sized pieces, and cuts off even more when she shows how to do two rounds around the center square.)

I can see that her method can provide good precision, but there are other ways to get that precision. Personally, that video doesn't make me want to switch from my current methods. I found another video where she shows making half square triangles. The amount of fabric wasted seems quite large to me! The method of making them 8 at a time (slightly oversized and then cutting them down to size) has almost no fabric waste and seems like about the same amount of work.

I find it very interesting to see a quite different approach. I salute people who come up new methods to give people more options of getting the results they want.

After looking at the part one video, I remembered that at one time I had this book and ruler. Tried it a couple of times, did not like the results and passed the book and ruler to someone here on quiltboard about 5 or 6 years ago.

Macybaby 02-04-2021 05:50 AM

I do mine with the easy angle ruler. I started by drawing out the finished size, then drawing the corner lines and taking my ruler and figuring out what the inner square needs to be (this is important). At one point I had a chart with each size.

Then I figure out what WOF I need for the corners and cut them with the easy angle ruler method, Hard to explain in writing, but if you've been using it then you'll be familiar with how that works. I'll go 1.4" wider than needed so I can trim. I will finger crease the center square and then line up the point of the triangle with that crease so I'll have it centered for when I trim.

One word of caution, you are starting out with a square that will end up on point. So if you have lines that you want to end up horizontal on the quilt, you need to cut them bias and then you might want to do the covered corners method.

Hagridsmom 02-04-2021 02:46 PM

Thank you for the explanation. I will be looking into this as soon as I get a chance. I am not mathmatically inclined so I like the idea of drawing it out first and measuring. I just really liked the 2 color version he made so it intrigued me again. I think I remember people in my little quilting group commenting on the waste of fabric and I don't think any of us looked into it any further. However, that was a long time ago and many moves out of state so I could be confused. It would be handy to see a picture of her ruler enlarged so you could tell what you were looking at and compare it to the easy angle. I appreciate the interest in this subject again.

BTW I inherited a Singer 301 in a cabinet and have no use for it. I think she was the original owner and that the book is in a drawer. I have more than enough older machines and am perfectly willing for this to go to a good home. I live in the St Charles MO area if you want to pick it up and take it away. I much prefer my FW's and lipstick rose Morse that I bought from a " poor widder woman." No kidding - that is how she described herself! Anyway, my offer stands for anyone interested.


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