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My presser foot has 2 levels. When it is all the way up, it opens the tension disks and I pull the thread. Seems OK.
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The dealer where I bought my new machine last year said to never pull it back through the tension discs. I always did with the older machines but I don't want to take any chances with this one.
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I really don't know what the problem is. Most dealers will tell you to snip the thread and pull from the needle end so that's what I usually do. Some things don't make sense, but once a dealer has advised me to do a certain thing, why not do it?
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I just asked about this when I bought a new machine and the dealer said it shouldn't hurt the machine to pull the thread out by the spool - UNLESS - you have a broken thread or it shreds behind the needle. Then you risk lint and fuzz in the tension discs.
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Re: the lint thing. I've heard the pros say for years - don't pull your thread backwards through the tension discs. I'm too much of a penny pincher to waste thread, so I unthread my machine. I take the spool off the spool holder, move it toward the thread path (is thread path a viable term??), at which point, the thread becomes slack; I then gently remove it with my forefinger. There is no pulling of the thread. It's easy done and just takes a nanosecond.
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Originally Posted by mltquilt
Have the same thing with my new Bernina 830. Wastes a little thread, but much better than ruining an expensive machine. Also doing it now on my other machines.
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When I bought my Babylock Sewing/Embroidery machine, I was told by the person who taught the classes to cut top thread near the spool and pull the thread out through the needle to prevent lint that would build up in the machine. I have just gotten in the habit of doing this with all my machines now.
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Originally Posted by BettyM
I have heard that you should never pull your thread back out of the tension disks when you are changing thread on your sewing machine, be it DSM or longarm. Is this true and what is the reason? I don't want to harm my machines, although I have been doing this with my Viking Rose ever since we bought it new in the 90's and have no problems with it after all these years.
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There has been many threads on this subject. After seeing the thread some time ago, I talked with my repair man. He said it shouldn't damage the machine either way you do it. I think I will keep saving the extra thread. After sewing for some 55+ years & not having the machine mess up because pulling the thread out backwards, I'm not to worried about any problems. If it is because of lint build up, I will take the time to brush it out. I'm with Scissor Queen, if your machine is that touchy, it isn't worth having.
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Originally Posted by Candace
Follow your dealer's instructions, not what people here say. Your dealer is going to be the one honoring (or not) your warranty on the machine. Any newer computerized sewing machine owner will be told NOT to pull the thread out backwards. And I surely wouldn't tell you otherwise and risk the longevity of your machine.
You're not supposed to pull it backwards because there is a sensor up there that has a flap sort of thingy that goes in one direction. But with a very slow, even motion you can remove the thread without causing any damage. The educators always tell you not to because most people are just gonna yank the heck out of the thread, and if the thread loops around the sensor up there and you're pulling too fast or to tightly on the thread, you're going to bend the flap. An ocasional backwards pull will be fine but don't make it a habit. |
Originally Posted by kwiltnutt
Originally Posted by mltquilt
Have the same thing with my new Bernina 830. Wastes a little thread, but much better than ruining an expensive machine. Also doing it now on my other machines.
mltquilt inches to the right of the needle) for quilting, as I normally make 120" x 120" quilts. (I could go on and on, but I will just say that I am 100% happy with it) |
By pulling the thread out through the needle, you won't pull lint or thread through the tension disks that may be clinging on the machine by the needle or in the thread path. It has been known to happen and cause havoc with your tension.
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I always make sure the pressure foot is in the UP position. Do not pull the thread thru the tension discs if the pressure foot is engaged. That is what hurts your machine.
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I tend to agree with both of these posts.
Originally Posted by C.
Here is what was told to me from two different dealers: the tension discs were made to work in the one direction, which is coming down to the needle. When we (I used to do this) pull the thread out from the top rather than from the needle, we are going in the opposite direction the discs were made to work. Therefore, in the long run it will create tension problems in the future. They also stated it is the number one reason a machine needs repaired, because of the tension. So, I clip my thread up by the take up lever and pull the cut strand thru the needle, I save those pieces in a jar and use for hand sewing bindings etc. Hope this helped explain it......
It just reduces the chances of lint lodging in the tension mechanism. Thread is spun with directionality. Rubbing it against the grain will dislodge more lint than rubbing with the grain. Actually, the same applies to bobbin thread -- long lengths should not be pulled backwards through the tensioning system. In that case, I think the bigger risk is eventually scoring the metal. I don't find it any more difficult to snip thread first, so I just made it a habit to always pull thread through with the grain. Hand quilters are taught to thread their needle with the grain of the thread (knot goes at spool end of the cut thread). This also is because friction is reduced if you pull thread through fabric with the grain of the thread instead of against the grain of the thread. |
My Necchi is 56 yrs old and I have always pulled my thread out through the tension disks. I have never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by QuiltnNan
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Personally I think if a machine is so delicate you can't pull the thread out backwards you probably don't want it. I've been pulling the thread out backwards on my Pfaff for over 10 years. When the presser foot is up, the tension disks are open and the thread is loose.
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I was taught this too! So I clip the thread up top and pull it out toward the needle. Ironically, I've see advice to "floss" your tension disks by moving the thread back and forward through them.
I think I agree with those of you who agree it makes little difference. |
If you draw thread backwards thru the tension guide, you carry lint back into it.
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Originally Posted by CAS49OR
I was taught this too! So I clip the thread up top and pull it out toward the needle. Ironically, I've see advice to "floss" your tension disks by moving the thread back and forward through them.
I think I agree with those of you who agree it makes little difference. |
Originally Posted by ghostrider
Pulling it backwards is supposed to leave lint in the tension disks, but I've been doing it for over 20 years on my Viking with no problems at all and none on the newer Bernina either. I clean between the discs whenever I clean the bobbin area, no big deal. It's just lint, not a tension issue.
ETA: Definitely raise the foot first. (do people really unthread with the foot down?) As I'm reading this board more, I'm thinking I was darn lucky to end up buying a Viking. |
Ditto this.
Originally Posted by Sadiemae
I read the same thing, so I clip the thread and pull it through the needle.
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when i got my new viking years ago we were taught not to pull the thread out back of the tension disks. It was so long ago I don't remember why. So, I don't pull it out backwards. Why take a chance on messing it up its only thread.
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dont u think sometimes they tell you this stuff to sell more thread
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Originally Posted by Candace
Follow your dealer's instructions, not what people here say. Your dealer is going to be the one honoring (or not) your warranty on the machine. Any newer computerized sewing machine owner will be told NOT to pull the thread out backwards. And I surely wouldn't tell you otherwise and risk the longevity of your machine.
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I thought my Viking machine needed a new computer chip which was $400.00 and I took it to a repair man about 6 months ago and all that was wrong is that there was a bunch of thread and fuss in the tension disks. How do you clean them. I bought a new machine at the time so now I have a viking as good as new and a bernina aurora 440.
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I haven't heard this about the upper thread but the Bernina guy where I got my machine says when you are removing the bobbin from the case you clip thread as close to the casing as possible before removing the bobbin. He said if you continue to pull that long length of thread you will spring the bobbin.
Robin in TX Sorry about double post. My fingers aren't behaving. Is there a way to remove your own posts? I've tried to "edit" and remove the post but it comes back. |
I haven't heard this about the upper thread but the Bernina guy where I got my machine says when you are removing the bobbin from the case you clip thread as close to the casing as possible before removing the bobbin. He said if you continue to pull that long length of thread you will spring the bobbin.
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Originally Posted by BettyM
I have heard that you should never pull your thread back out of the tension disks when you are changing thread on your sewing machine, be it DSM or longarm. Is this true and what is the reason? I don't want to harm my machines, although I have been doing this with my Viking Rose ever since we bought it new in the 90's and have no problems with it after all these years.
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Originally Posted by AlwaysQuilting
I've also read somewhere that you should pull the upper thread forward through the needle, and not backwards.
But I can't find the website now where I saw it. |
I was told by my babylock dealer ---never pull the thread out with out raising the pressure foot, Strips gears I think.
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Hi Betty!
I was at a Husqvarna class at my LQS just last week. The instructor told us that you should never pull the thread through to the bottom end of the needle. This sometimes binds the gears. She explained to clip the thread just before letting it go through your machine, and to grab the thread and pull it out the opposite way. (towards your spool of thread.) I have also been taking it off the regular way, so this must be something new and it makes sense when you think about it. CruisingStef |
Originally Posted by wvdek
I tend to agree with both of these posts.
Originally Posted by C.
Here is what was told to me from two different dealers: the tension discs were made to work in the one direction, which is coming down to the needle. When we (I used to do this) pull the thread out from the top rather than from the needle, we are going in the opposite direction the discs were made to work. Therefore, in the long run it will create tension problems in the future. They also stated it is the number one reason a machine needs repaired, because of the tension. So, I clip my thread up by the take up lever and pull the cut strand thru the needle, I save those pieces in a jar and use for hand sewing bindings etc. Hope this helped explain it......
It just reduces the chances of lint lodging in the tension mechanism. Thread is spun with directionality. Rubbing it against the grain will dislodge more lint than rubbing with the grain. Actually, the same applies to bobbin thread -- long lengths should not be pulled backwards through the tensioning system. In that case, I think the bigger risk is eventually scoring the metal. I don't find it any more difficult to snip thread first, so I just made it a habit to always pull thread through with the grain. Hand quilters are taught to thread their needle with the grain of the thread (knot goes at spool end of the cut thread). This also is because friction is reduced if you pull thread through fabric with the grain of the thread instead of against the grain of the thread. |
Though the manufacurers say this the issue is fighting the tension and stress on the needle- raise the presser foot first
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When I worked in a sewing factory, I was told to cut the thread above the tension and pull it the rest of the way out through the needle, or next to the needle. Pulling the thread backwards has a tendency to leave particles of thread behind to jam your tension discs. They felt so strongly about it, that if you were caught doing it, you were fired. Have you ever tried to thread a needle with the wrong end of the thread? Same issue, the thread will fray and separate making it nearly impossible to thread it.
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I watched my mom who has been sewing for over forty years pull her thread out. Granted, the foot is raised and she pulls gently and nothing has ever happened. I have been sewing for 11 years doing what mom has taught me, and knock on cotton, nothing has happened. I even open the side door and watched as I pulled the thread.
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When I bought my Pfaff 15 yrs ago I took a class, and the teacher advised NOT to pull the thread backwards thru the machine, the Pfaff was not made with that purpose. I've followed that advice and have not had any problem. It seems like a common sense approach anyway.
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Originally Posted by Candace
Follow your dealer's instructions, not what people here say. Your dealer is going to be the one honoring (or not) your warranty on the machine. Any newer computerized sewing machine owner will be told NOT to pull the thread out backwards. And I surely wouldn't tell you otherwise and risk the longevity of your machine.
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Since I've bought all my Brothers Machines I've been pulling the thread forward. These machines cost too much to be ripping the thread backwards. When you are doing embroidery you're changing colors often and causes alot more lint than regular sewing.
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Most of todays machines no longer have side doors to open. They are encased in plastic where you need special tools to get them apart to get into the tension disks. I'm not saying they aren't good machines, I have a few, but they aren't made for the user to clean and oil. They need to be taken in and serviced.
Good Luck Suzy |
Hi,
I have 3 Babylock machines....and my dealer said to cut the thread at the spool, pull it out down thru the needle. Yes, for the tension discs, but also because of thread fibers as you are pulling it backwards up the thread....hard to explain! If you pull up on thread you are going against the "grain" of it and some will leave "fuzz" in your machine insides. Especially embroidery thread is more fibrous. I always cut it and pull it out thru the needle....it's thread! Bev |
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