Use to struggle with the geese too, but switched to PP. It's the only way to fly:D (OK, collective groan here)

Quilt in a Day flying geese ruler works for me as a new quilter. El Burns always has over sized blocks so you can trim them to the perfect size.

Yes, a groaner but well worth it!

I also paper piece my flying geese. I have eq7 so I can print off whatever size I want. Currently working on flying geese as sashing for a quilt with nine large blocks and I wouldn't be able to do it any other way.

Me too - the Wing Clipper Rules! (pun intended!)

Starch the heck out of the fabric before cutting, then again each seam and pressing. The stiffness will keep the fabric from stretching.
I use the rectangle with squares method.

So do I! It takes a bit more time to trim make it and trim it down, but the block comes out perfectly!

I have been looking at methods to make flying geese and Eleanor Burns method seems pretty Kelly-proof, since she makes them a little large so they can be trimmed to proper size.

I, too, make horrible flying geese. The only way I can make them look okay is to use the Ricky Tims method, but then you have to sew the edges down. Don't like how that looks. I made a king size quilt that had 12 stars within a star and each star had 4 FG. So I made 64 FG and the long armer that quilted that quilt said I was an excellent sewer. She said it in a room full of her clients. They all said "You've never said that to me". And it was those stupid FG that came out all cockeyed. But when I put them together, they went together well. I did the long rectangle and two squares on either side, like usual, and they turned out horrible, but I used them, and they worked well for some reason. ??? Next time I'm trying the big square and 4 little squares. Heard that's easy.

I love the Eleanor Burns method.