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Synnove 05-11-2022 10:38 AM

Thread conditioner
 
Recent posts have mentioned thread conditioner. Bee's wax is commonly used, but has anyone tried candle wax? I have a small piece of it from a tea candle, and it's working great for thread I use for applique.

Mkotch 05-12-2022 02:04 AM

Thanks for that suggestion. I have found "Thread Conditioner" doesn't work as well as bees' wax, and I will give a candle a try.

cashs_mom 05-12-2022 11:03 AM

I've got 2 containers of Thread Heaven that I've been using forever. When I need more wax/conditioner for my thread, I'll try candle wax.

quiltedsunshine 05-12-2022 07:58 PM

I like bees wax better than thread conditioner.

greaterexp 05-13-2022 06:32 AM

I've never used a tea candle, but it's a great suggestion! I have trouble knotting the ends of thread when using thread conditioner, so I have to make sure I leave the ends free of it.

SusieQOH 05-13-2022 07:59 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me and one I never thought of.
I'm getting ready to hand quilt a project and am getting some new thread. I have
Thread Magic (something like that, forgot the exact name) but I haven't bought hand quilting thread in a long time.
I bought Gutermann.

Peckish 05-13-2022 01:57 PM

I found that thread conditioner didn't do much for polyester thread, in fact it seemed to make it worse.

Fizzle 05-14-2022 05:14 AM

Well i bought Thread Heaven just yesterday. After i opened it i thought, geeshe, it looks like a blob of wax! I have not used it yet so we will see! Hope i didnt totally waste my money

pbraun 05-15-2022 03:32 AM

I will show my ignorance...but how do you use thread conditioner?

SusieQOH 05-15-2022 06:45 AM

You take your length of thread and run it through the conditioner. No question is ignorant! :)

rvsfan 05-15-2022 09:55 AM

redrockthreads.com has a thread conditioner, Thread Magic Thread Conditioner Square With Cutter
Fabric and Thread Care, it's $12.95. It's also available as 2 cubes for $10.95 and 1 round for $10.95.

TheMerkleFamily 05-15-2022 10:12 AM

Nice recent write-up about thread conditioners by Suzy Quilts - appears the benefits are greater with natural threads (i.e. cotton) vs synthetic (polyester) which is why some opinions may vary. I spent a few hours hand sewing last evening with Aurifil 50wt and Thread Magic - worked wonderful! No tangles, No fraying, No resistance through layers of fabric. I think I might also try the Sew Fine conditioner as I've seen it recommended by several quilters that I follow.

Ultimate Guide to Thread Conditioners

Peckish 05-16-2022 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by SusieQOH (Post 8551986)
You take your length of thread and run it through the conditioner. No question is ignorant! :)

To expand on Susie's answer - put the thread on top of the conditioner, put your thumb on top of the thread, and pull the thread with your other hand. This will coat the thread. ;)

Peckish 05-16-2022 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by TheMerkleFamily (Post 8552007)
appears the benefits are greater with natural threads (i.e. cotton) vs synthetic (polyester) which is why some opinions may vary.

Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate that thread conditioner doesn't work at all. I love it for cotton thread, but I prefer to use Bottom Line for applique because it's so fine, sinks into the fabric, and I can get that ring of pre-wound bobbins in every color. But when I put thread conditioner on it, it felt like I was dragging Velcro through the fabric.

TheMerkleFamily 05-16-2022 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Peckish (Post 8552117)
I prefer to use Bottom Line for applique because it's so fine, sinks into the fabric, and I can get that ring of pre-wound bobbins in every color.

I have Bottom Line on hand and think I will give it a try, sans conditioner, as that may be a better solution all the way around - I like the idea of a thinner thread that will sink into the fabric - thank you! ;)

TheMerkleFamily 05-28-2022 11:27 AM

Thought I would share my findings after hand sewing appliqué this week. I used aurifil 50wt thread with both Thread Magic and then Sew Fine Thread Gloss.

Sew Fine was a recent purchase I made after seeing it promoted elsewhere - it certainly “coated” my thread but I felt a distinct drag when pulling through the fabric layers. No fraying, no tangles but did not allow my thread to move through the fabric smoothly. Back of the small can says ingredients are beeswax, coconut oil & fragrance. BTW - it smells great!

Thread Magic is a product I’ve used for a few years and by comparison works better - for me - nice & smooth movement, no tangles or issues of any kind. The brand does not seem to share its ingredients.

Lastly, I plan to try polyester thread with no conditioner at all and am anxious to see how that feels and looks compared to what I’ve always done.

pennyhal2 05-28-2022 11:32 AM

I use bee wax. It lasts forever and the one I have has it's own container with slots to slide the thread through.

SusieQOH 05-29-2022 06:22 AM

I mentioned that I'm hand quilting a quilt right now. I bought Gutermann hand quilting thread and it's wonderful. I don't even need thread conditioner.
For years I hand quilted exclusively and always used Coats & Clark. It tangled a lot.


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