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marcycn 07-05-2012 06:08 AM

Tie vs stitch
 
Does anyone here tie their quilts?

Is it considered less of a quilt if it's not machine quilted or at least hand quilted?

Yarn vs DMC thread vs crochet thread if you do tie?

Do tied quilts hold up for a long time?

I'm new to all this but I have 4 finished tied quilts over the last 2 months with 4 more tops ready to sandwich. My goal is 10 by Christmas and then work on one for me. :)

DebraK 07-05-2012 06:34 AM

Tying your quilt does not make it less of a quilt. I like DMC.

Daylesewblessed 07-05-2012 06:44 AM

I like DMC or crochet thread. I do not prefer yarn. It is harder to pull through and turns to a fuzz ball after a few washings.

The important thing with tying quilts is to have a secure knot. I work with charity quilts, and some of the ones that come in are tied with granny knots. I can pull them out with no trouble, so they will never stand up to normal use or washing.

Dayle

bearisgray 07-05-2012 07:12 AM

I have some very old, very well used quilts that were tied.

The important things to me with a tied quilt -

1) The knots are secure

2) Depending on the batting/filler/middle - there are enough knots to hold it together and to keep the middle layer from shifting around - if one is using flannel or warm and natural batting, for example, one knot every 10 inches would probably be adequate. If using a fiber that is sort of 'loose' - a knot every four inches - read the packaging label

3) I prefer the knots to be 'arranged' - not scattered willy-nilly. It probably doesn't affect/afflict the utility value of the item, but I like the knots to be arranged in fairly straight lines and fairly consistently spaced.

Sewhappytoquilt 07-05-2012 07:14 AM

I LOVE the process of tying a quilt. Call me silly. Plus, the quilts come out so soft, not stiff like some "over-quilted" machine quilting that I have done. I use two or three strands of DMC floss. I have used yarn and it is soooo very hard to pull through. The floss makes it a breeze.

Kitsie 07-05-2012 07:17 AM

I LOVE my tied quilt! I used perle cotton and have no problems with "undoing" or fraying. It gets washed often and was done 2 1/2 yrs ago.

Sunnye 07-05-2012 07:26 AM

I use pearl cotton to tie. You can tie it a few times to secure it or zig zag a few stitches to secure it to quilt, then tie. I do not like yarn either, especially on baby quilts.

marcycn 07-05-2012 07:53 AM

Thanks everyone. I was beginning to think tied quilts were the lazy way of doing them. Personally I like them better. :-)

redtweety 07-05-2012 08:06 AM

I just helped my daughter finish a quilt by tying it, it was a tee shirt quilt and it was wonderful. She loved tying it, thought it was "was more fun"

Peckish 07-05-2012 08:35 AM

I think it's a matter of personal preference, and a tied quilt does not make it less of a quilt. This gets into Quilt Police territory, IMO. If anyone tells you it's not a "real" quilt, just turn and walk away, lol. The only opinion that counts is yours.

I've always been more a fan of quilting vs tying, but I saw a quilt that Kaffe Fassett did that was tied with French knots - and it was drop-dead GORGEOUS. Now I'm contemplating which one of my unfinished tops I should tie with French knots! lol!

ptquilts 07-05-2012 08:41 AM

You can also tie with the knots to the back, if you don't want anything cluttering the front of the quilt. Just put a long pin in from the front where you want the knot to be, then turn over and tie from the back.

PiecesinMn 07-05-2012 10:03 AM

I love tying quilts with fat batts. Good luck in machine quilting with the thick batting. The fat batt makes it so warm and cozy to snuggle with. I have enough love of all things quilted!!!

JuneBillie 07-05-2012 10:10 AM

All the quilts I remember my grandmother making were tied. They all were thick, and so warm. I remember thinking as a kids how pretty all those little ties on top were. I don't remember my mom tying one, and I haven't either, but I would like to try one.

mom-6 07-05-2012 10:34 AM

For me it depends on the quilt whether I tie, hand stitch or machine stitch it.

Some quilts just beg to be tied IMO. I like to be a little different and use ribbon for tying. On ones for little girls I use the narrow satin or grosgrain ribbon and may even make the tails long enough to tie a little bow then tie the loops together for security. For the corduroy one I did I used a wider variagated nylon (?) ribbon that matched the colors of the quilt and had about 1" tails.

I tend to think a hand pieced quilt should be either hand quilted or tied. Somehow machine quilting just seems wrong if it has been hand pieced.

In general if it is machine pieced I think tied or machine quilted is usually most appropriate.

Just how I view things as a rule of thumb...each individual quilt is considered as it happens...LOL!

humbird 07-05-2012 11:08 AM

Pickish, would you know if there is a picture on line of the quilt Kaffe Fasset did with French Knots? That sounds so interesting, and I would love to see it. Thanks

Pat625 07-05-2012 11:30 AM

I say it is a personal preference! I used to tie everthing until I learned to hand quilt

Peckish 07-05-2012 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by humbird (Post 5341144)
Pickish, would you know if there is a picture on line of the quilt Kaffe Fasset did with French Knots? That sounds so interesting, and I would love to see it. Thanks

There are a few pics, but they're kind of hard to get to - they're in book previews. The book is "Quilts in the Sun" and he did 2 versions - "Jane's Diamonds Pastel Quilt" and "Jane's Diamonds Lapis Quilt".

Hopefully this link will work - you'll have to click through the book, the pastel one is on 89, and it's on this quilt that you can see the french knots. The lapis one is on page 93. The page numbers are at the bottom right.

http://www.aadl.org/catalog/record/1305572

gollytwo 07-05-2012 01:49 PM

I'd be more likely to reverse and say handquilted, or at least machine quilted than the other way around.
Tied quilts are as old as handquilted. And, they are both rightly called quilts.

I do alot of repro fabric (early 1800s - early 1900s) quilts and sometimes the quilt just calls out to be tied. So I do.
I have a postage stamp quilt I made and tied 20+ years ago, frequently washed; the fabric is wearing out; the ties are still fine. I used 2 strand embroidery thread on it.
I'll use perle cotton now. I would not use yarn.

gollytwo 07-05-2012 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by humbird (Post 5341144)
Pickish, would you know if there is a picture on line of the quilt Kaffe Fasset did with French Knots? That sounds so interesting, and I would love to see it. Thanks

The book is available from Amazon for just under $17

Greenheron 07-05-2012 02:50 PM

I like both--tying is fun and I use it on fun-type quilts like primitives. I use perle cotton, sometimes through a button. Old time ladies sometimes liked to tie with wool yarn because it felts in washing, making the knot more secure. Some make-do quilters used string they saved, like the string closing on feed sacks, to use as ties.

ckcowl 07-05-2012 03:17 PM

i have a tied quilt that is about 75 years old- has held up to much use & laundering.
since a quilt is 3 layers- sandwiched together = secured with some sort of stitch - tied is still a quilt- 3 layers- the ties count as a stitch :)
i prefer perle cotton- it is just easy to use and comes in tons of colors...very economical
some batts are recommended for tied quilts- others are not- read the batting packages and choose a batt that is recommended and follow the guidelines for distances. tie good square knots- so they hold up.

Jackie Spencer 07-05-2012 03:37 PM

I love the idea of the French knots!!

humbird 07-05-2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by gollytwo (Post 5341486)
The book is available from Amazon for just under $17

Thank you Pickish and gollytwo. I looked up the site you posted Pickish. The quilts were beautiful, but I was not able to enlarge for a close up. Will have to look up the book. Told myself I would not buy anymore books, but may have to change my mind! thanks again.

Sewnoma 07-05-2012 04:25 PM

My husband doesn't like the look of ties, so, this far I've quilted all "our" quilts. But my grandmother tied each and every one of her quilts and I have one that went all the way to Viet Nam and (thankfully) back with my uncle - the fabric is threadbare in spots but all of the ties are intact! She tied hers with yarn; usually leftover strands from latch-hook rug kits, because NOTHING was wasted! She used a really wide needle with kind of a spade shaped head on it to make it a little easier. (Not sure what type of needle that is.)

To me the ties do give a sort of vintage or 'country' look - I think it's charming and makes me think of my grandma so I like ties even though so far I haven't made a quilt with them. :)

sandilee 07-05-2012 08:17 PM

I have some quilts that DH's grandmother made back in the 1930-1940's. They are fluffier. I
am going to make my nieces/nephews quilts and I am going to tie them. Gonna try using the perle or embroidery thread this time. Have always used yarn and I think the thread will look better and will hold up better than yarn.

Greenheron 07-05-2012 08:48 PM

Fassett's book Quilts in the Sun is available used from abebooks.com for $5.39 and up, depending on the condition and dealer plus about $4 postage. It is a good place to find quilt, craft, sewing books at savings.

Greenheron 07-05-2012 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Sewnoma (Post 5341822)
My husband doesn't like the look of ties, so, this far I've quilted all "our" quilts. But my grandmother tied each and every one of her quilts and I have one that went all the way to Viet Nam and (thankfully) back with my uncle - the fabric is threadbare in spots but all of the ties are intact! She tied hers with yarn; usually leftover strands from latch-hook rug kits, because NOTHING was wasted! She used a really wide needle with kind of a spade shaped head on it to make it a little easier. (Not sure what type of needle that is.)

To me the ties do give a sort of vintage or 'country' look - I think it's charming and makes me think of my grandma so I like ties even though so far I haven't made a quilt with them. :)

Could have been a leather or glover's needle. Big tapestry needles work well and some upholstery needles. Need a big enough eye to get the cord or yarn through.

GrannieAnnie 07-05-2012 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by marcycn (Post 5340539)
Does anyone here tie their quilts?

Is it considered less of a quilt if it's not machine quilted or at least hand quilted?

Yarn vs DMC thread vs crochet thread if you do tie?

Do tied quilts hold up for a long time?

I'm new to all this but I have 4 finished tied quilts over the last 2 months with 4 more tops ready to sandwich. My goal is 10 by Christmas and then work on one for me. :)


I tie smaller quilts. I use either crochet cotton (mid weight) or DMC. I HATE YARN for tying!

If I say my quilt is a quilt, I really don't much care what someone else says.

katydidkg 07-06-2012 03:28 AM

I've tied a quilt before because it was too big to FMQ on my home sewing machine. I've used perle cotton, DMC and also crochet thread used for crocheting edgings, etc.

maviskw 07-06-2012 04:35 AM

We have made hundreds of tied quilts in our homemakers club for charity. When someone has a fire in our area, they get one or more of our quilts. We always tie - with yarn. The secret to getting the yarn through the quilt is the size of the needle. Really large, fat needles make a hole large enough for the yarn to go through easily. I poke the yarn down from the top, and pull it down leaving enough to tie a knot on the top. Then, using my finger as a measure, poke the needle up from under about a half inch from where it went down. Now it is important to pull from the top as your other hand guides the thread underneath so you don't get a big bunch of yarn in a knot at the bottom. We tie the knot twice, and cut the yarn at one half to one inch long. I know some leave up to four inch tails on their knots, but I don't like that. To each his own.
I really like the puffiness of a thick batt in a tied quilt. Some of us pull our knots tight to the quilt, and some leave the knot loose so that the batt is still puffy under the knot.
On a really fancy quilt, the ties may take away from the look of the top, but a tied quilt feels soft and warm.

Latrinka 07-06-2012 04:36 AM

I don't think it makes it any less of a quilt. I started out cutting my fabrics by hand (didn't know about a rotary cutter), and made several patchwork quilts and tied them. My brother is using his as we speak, has had it for years, and it gets washed a couple times a year, and is holding up great! Oh, and I used DMC emb thread to tie mine.

lisalovesquilting 07-06-2012 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jackie Spencer (Post 5341722)
I love the idea of the French knots!!

Me too. But I wonder what it looks like on the back?

kellen46 07-06-2012 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by DebraK (Post 5340597)
Tying your quilt does not make it less of a quilt. I like DMC.

I do both and use crochet cotton to tie with. One thing I do with tied quilts is when done I put a drop of fabric glue on each knot. That way I know they are secure for life.

justflyingin 07-06-2012 07:43 AM

I have done a lot of tied quilts. I use a bent upholstery needle to get the initial Perle cotton through.

BrendaK 07-06-2012 08:09 AM

The first quilts I remember were tied. My Mom would use an old blanket for the batting and maybe a sheet for the top and the bottom. They were great and lasted a long time. She usually tied with yarn I like emb thread. I made a quilt for my DGS that was tied and he loves to play with the ties. The batting I used for my DGS's quilt was fleece, it worked out great. As been said I think that it's what ever you want to do. It's your quilt so you are the boss of it.Have fun and be sure to show us what you did. BrendaK

Pat of Abington 07-06-2012 08:11 AM

I have tied a quilt 2 different ways. The first one was tied with embroidery floss. About 8 or 9 years ago I made quilts for my 2 grandsons and my sister, who has been quilting for many years, suggested that I use the stitch on my machine for sewing on buttons. It locks the stitches at the beginning and at the end and was much quicker than I could have done by hand. The boys have had them since and except for wear from being used everywhere and anywhere, they are still holding up quite well.

SewExtremeSeams 07-06-2012 09:26 AM

Did you notice the 4th quilt here that she posted?

http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...ml#post5343506

It looks like a real quilt to me. :)

Pattylynn 07-06-2012 09:31 AM

Like the others, I have tied several quilts. I love them! They are fast and easy, or slow and hard depending upon how much time you have to spend on one. In a pinch, I have created a tied quilt in an afternoon.

Any quilt you create is a gift of love.

EvelynJ 07-06-2012 10:35 AM

I've used yarn to tie my cousin's baby quilt. And I have just recently used regular thread on my sewing machine and just made lines for my "quilt" projects. I figure it is my creation, made with love and care. It's really up to the individual doing the work, in my opinion.

carolynjo 07-06-2012 11:54 AM

Our ancestors had no choice but to tie their quilts and they deeded many quilts for warmth. Some of those quilts received very rough wear and held up for years. A few have survived and they were pretty as well as serviceable. A quilt sandwich is a quilt, regardless of how the layers are secured. Enjoy tying those quilts and getting them used.


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