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TL-2200QVP skipping stitches
I just received a Juki longarm from a friend who inherited it & could never get to work. Juki is skipping stitches only when in stitch modes Precise and Baste. I have tried everything I can think of. I checked the presser foot height, bobbin tension, needle, and tried the top thread tension. I'm not sure about installing the needle. Any videos you can suggest? Or anything else to check that could cause this skipping?
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Have you checked to see if there is a Youtube video than can address the problems? My Janome 1600P was skipping stitches and then someone suggested I use a larger needle. Going from a size HL x 5 (14) to a HL x 5 (16) helped. Got a set of the larger sized needles from Amazon.
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Are you getting holes where the stitches should be, or is it just making long stitches?
If the latter, it's the encoders. They need to make good contact to the rails since they tell the head how much it's moved. Make sure the rails on the table and on the carriage are clean and smooth, and that the encoder wheels are making good contact. Have someone watch to make sure they are rotating smoothly with the head movement. Also check to make sure the encoder plugs are tight and clean and that the wires aren't catching on something. If you're getting holes, it could be too high of a tension, too small of a needle, or moving the head too fast. |
I don't know what precise stitch is. I actually don't have a basting stitch on my APQS Lucey, but all I do is put it in stitch regulation mode and make the stitch as long as I can. This works just fine for basting the batting to the backing and the top to the backing and batting. It removes pretty easily when done. Do you use the precise stitching all the time? Interesting how the different macines work.
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Originally Posted by sewingpup
(Post 8654185)
I don't know what precise stitch is.
Cruise is usually the term for non-regulated mode (where the head keeps stitching at a stitches-per-minute rate). Stitch length in cruise will change if the speed you move the head changes. In precise stitch (and I'm guessing basting stitch is something like 1/4" stitch length, regulated), if stitches are long and there are no holes where a stitch normally should be, it means the encoders haven't picked up the movement on the head on the rails OR the signal from them hasn't been properly sent to the head OR the user is moving the head too fast for the encoders to keep up. Since it sounds like the Juki stitches fine in cruise mode, it's quite unlikely for it to be a timing issue. |
I have the J350 Miyabi which I believe is the newer version of the 2200QVP. I get good results with a Gros-Beckert 110/18, which is a #4, needle when using 40wt thread. On my machine, I adjust the eye to the 5:30 postion. I usually stitch in cruise mode. I have to say, I've not been happy with precise mode but it could be me and not the machine - I am a ruler quilter and precise just doesn't work well with all my starts and stops. I adjusted my hopping foot to be a credit card width off the fabric when in the down position and that seems to be a good place. Finally, be sure that your fabric is not to taught as that can lead to skipped stitches, but that would most likely happen in all modes not just the two you are having diffculty with. Baste for me works fine so I don't have any ideas for that. Good luck. It is most likely something simple and not a timing issue.
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I agree with MKC - it's either an encoder issue or the needle is too small and is flexing as you quilt, which means it misses the bobbin thread.
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Originally Posted by lindaschipper
(Post 8654145)
Have you checked to see if there is a Youtube video than can address the problems? My Janome 1600P was skipping stitches and then someone suggested I use a larger needle. Going from a size HL x 5 (14) to a HL x 5 (16) helped. Got a set of the larger sized needles from Amazon.
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Originally Posted by mkc
(Post 8654160)
Are you getting holes where the stitches should be, or is it just making long stitches?
If the latter, it's the encoders. They need to make good contact to the rails since they tell the head how much it's moved. Make sure the rails on the table and on the carriage are clean and smooth, and that the encoder wheels are making good contact. Have someone watch to make sure they are rotating smoothly with the head movement. Also check to make sure the encoder plugs are tight and clean and that the wires aren't catching on something. If you're getting holes, it could be too high of a tension, too small of a needle, or moving the head too fast. |
Originally Posted by sewingpup
(Post 8654185)
I don't know what precise stitch is. I actually don't have a basting stitch on my APQS Lucey, but all I do is put it in stitch regulation mode and make the stitch as long as I can. This works just fine for basting the batting to the backing and the top to the backing and batting. It removes pretty easily when done. Do you use the precise stitching all the time? Interesting how the different macines work.
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Originally Posted by debmac12
(Post 8654194)
I did watch a video that said to only use 134 or 134R needles.
Another problem could be the tightness of your quilt sandwich. If it's *too* tight, it can skip. Try loosening the tension of the quilt sandwich itself, NOT the thread tension. |
Originally Posted by Peckish
(Post 8654218)
What size is 134 and 134R?
Juki longarms use system 134R Schmetz 134R Needle System |
Originally Posted by debmac12
(Post 8654198)
It was just strange to me that when using manually the cruise & manual stitch mode were beautiful but, the precise & baste skipped at the beginning of a stitch run and the end of the run. It was like when slow it skipped and when it got up to speed is was fine. Very confusing to me. Thank you for your reply.
Consider giving Juki Junkies a shout to see if they can walk you through some other things to try. |
Thanks, How do I contact Juki Junkies?
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A lot of times when a longarm is skipping stitches, it's because the needle/hook distance is too wide. The hook should almost touch the needle as it goes around. It's a simple timing setting that you could probably do yourself.
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Originally Posted by debmac12
(Post 8654380)
Thanks, How do I contact Juki Junkies?
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Juki Junkies is a great shop and very helpful. I don't live near them not bought my machine from them, but they were very nice answering some of my questions They also have a group on FB, very nice and active. here is their website with contact numbers https://jukijunkies.com/shop/
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UPDATE ON SKIPPING STITCHES!
I finally have it working!! I ended up removing the encoders as the back one was not touching the rail. I got that fixed and it was better but still skipping some. Then I recalibrated the stitch regulator and that fixed it! Thank you all for your help. I appreciate it so much! |
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