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nhweaver 07-20-2013 07:48 AM

Topstitch Needles for quilting tops
 
I am taking a craftsy "making a large quilt on a small machine" (or something like that ), she recommends using clear thread on the top for sitd and using a topstitch 80-12 needle for doing this. Before I buy both of these, does any one else use these notions? Or can I achieve the same results using my regular thread (essential) and my #14 needles? Thanks, I read that the topstitch needle eye is more slender, I understand that, but is it totally necessary?

Scissor Queen 07-20-2013 09:39 AM

I never use invisible thread for quilting. It's just too big of a pain. Plus it doesn't make as nice of a stitch with the larger needles. I always use topstitch needles for quilting. The eye is bigger on topstitch needles. If you go to Superior Thread's website they have a needle chart that tells you all about all the different needles and how to match them to the thread and project you're using.

EasyPeezy 07-20-2013 09:56 AM

Since I've switched to Topstitch needles for piecing and SID I haven't
gone back to quilting needles. I also use Essential thread and find
the Topstitch needles work better with this thread.

pocoellie 07-20-2013 12:09 PM

I NEVER use monofilament(clear) thread for anything. I absolutely hate it. What I started using for the actual quilting is the machine embroidery thread, I use Connecting Threads Essentials for the piecing, it's a little linty but you can't beat the price and I just clean the bobbin area for every 2 bobbins used.

RavenLunaStitch 07-20-2013 12:23 PM

I never use invisible thread either -- it is a real pain to work with. I also use only topstitch needles for everything now & I have less thread breakage. I find that a 90/14 topstitch needle is what is in my machine almost all the time, for piecing and for quilting. Maybe I should be using an 80/12 more often, but I just go with whatever thread and needle combination my machines seem to like for the project I'm working on.

Oh, and is a topstitch needle totally necessary? In my opinion, no. I only started using them recently when having thread breakage issues and the longer hole solved this problem. I really haven't noticed any difference in actual stitching on fabric so I can't speak to that. I just like being able to use any thread I want without breakage issues and the topstitch needles have solved that problem for me like no other solution or adjustment to machine, etc.

kheliwud 07-20-2013 12:37 PM

I use Topstitch needles for everything. The longer eye gives your thread more room to interact with the bobbin hook when quilting through the quilt sandwich so stitches are better. I don't like nonviolent thread, either. It has too much curl. I quilt with cotton, polyester and silk threads. I like the effects I get with different thread types.

franc36 07-20-2013 12:51 PM

Unless the quilt is for a baby or for someone in a nursing home, I almost always use Aurifil monofilament thread. I have never had a problem using it. As for needles, I use topstitch sometimes; but I have also used quilting and micro. Those three work fine for me.

snipforfun 07-20-2013 02:29 PM

Unlike others experience with monofilament thread i have have had nothing but success after switching to Superiors MonoPoly. I had problems with nylon and the thread on skinny pools. When I quilt I use MonoPoly for SID to anchor blocks up/down then across back nd forth. This anchors the blocks and mkes them behave before doing the FMQ with thread of my choice with toostitch needles only. Thats all I buy. If uou go to superiorthreads.com they have amazing info. They will tell you how to use all their products. I might mention that you need to turn down your tension and dont use the thread cutter if you have one. The thread will spring back and needle will become unthreaded.

Lisa_wanna_b_quilter 07-20-2013 02:53 PM

I've never had a problem with monofilament thread either. I love the stuff. It really makes the fact that a meander around the ditch like a drunk driver much less noticeable.

nhweaver 07-20-2013 04:06 PM

I plan on using superior monopoly, and topstitch needles, I will give it a try on a sample. I think.

QuiltnNan 07-21-2013 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by EasyPeezy (Post 6187051)
Since I've switched to Topstitch needles for piecing and SID I haven't
gone back to quilting needles. I also use Essential thread and find
the Topstitch needles work better with this thread.

ditto from me... i love the topstitch needles.

BellaBoo 07-21-2013 07:06 AM

I only buy Titanium coated Topstitch needles made by Organ sold by Superior. Instead of the monofiliment threat I use Wonderfill InvisaFil It's the best SITD thread I have found. I use a size 70 needle for most of my sewing.

gale 07-21-2013 08:07 AM

I use schmetz topstitch needles for quilting but just regular thread.

eta: I use size 14. I've had shredding using connecting threads thread and size 12 needles.

snipforfun 07-21-2013 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by BellaBoo (Post 6188367)
I only buy Titanium coated Topstitch needles made by Organ sold by Superior. Instead of the monofiliment threat I use Wonderfill InvisaFil It's the best SITD thread I have found. I use a size 70 needle for most of my sewing.

As long as the mono thread is poly and not nylon is whats important

Hulalulu 07-21-2013 10:02 AM

The top stitch needle has done wonders for me --it's all I use any more, Superior brand, titanium coated. 80/12. Don't know if other top stitch needles are as good or better, this one is available at my LQS. No more sinking first stitches or shredded threads in the needle.

When it comes to the mono-filament thread, not a fan. Had used it in the past - last time I wound it on my bobbin it wound on so tight that the bobbin would not release, and was not even 1/2 full - had to be unwound -- it is MonoPoly by Superior. Have used it in the past on smaller projects where it was appropriate -- it seems to "tighten up" through the needle, found it was necessary to release the presser foot with the needle down from time to time to keep it from breaking in the needle's eye and disappearing into the threading path.
You might want to try a sample or two before making a commitment on what to use for your project.

gale 07-21-2013 10:28 AM

I've always read that you shouldn't use it in the bobbin. Or if you do, hand wind it or if your winder allows it, wind it more loosely. It's simpler for me to just not use it at all. lol

snipforfun 07-21-2013 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Hulalulu (Post 6188652)
The top stitch needle has done wonders for me --it's all I use any more, Superior brand, titanium coated. 80/12. Don't know if other top stitch needles are as good or better, this one is available at my LQS. No more sinking first stitches or shredded threads in the needle.

When it comes to the mono-filament thread, not a fan. Had used it in the past - last time I wound it on my bobbin it wound on so tight that the bobbin would not release, and was not even 1/2 full - had to be unwound -- it is MonoPoly by Superior. Have used it in the past on smaller projects where it was appropriate -- it seems to "tighten up" through the needle, found it was necessary to release the presser foot with the needle down from time to time to keep it from breaking in the needle's eye and disappearing into the threading path.
You might want to try a sample or two before making a commitment on what to use for your project.

When using Monopoly its necessary to turn your tension to about 2. Plus, Its pretty much impossible to wind bobbins unless you can go really slow. Superior has pre wound Monopoly bobbins wound on machines that they can control unlike we can do on our home machines. I have never felt the need to have invisible in bobbins but if I ever do I would purchase them.

BellaBoo 07-21-2013 02:53 PM

Superior brand topstitch needles are made by Organ. Organ needles are the best in the industry according to all the articles I have read about machine sewing needles.

Lori S 07-21-2013 03:07 PM

I used top stitch needles with monofilament thread and had nothing but trouble. I used the smallest needle sometimes a 70 -10 and get the best results with stitch in the ditch.... and I use spools upon spools of monofilament thread both poly and nylon.


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