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2wheelwoman 03-28-2010 06:36 PM

I've read so many notes here from people who are fans of spray basting. I hate pinning, so thought this would be a wonderful thing to do. I couldn't find any 505 locally, but did find the Sulky. I followed the directions to the letter, but it just didn't stick. I did two sandwiches last night, and neither of them stuck. If I so much as touch the sandwich it comes apart. :hunf: Any idea what could be wrong? Fabric is all cotton. Batting is polyester. Was sprayed well and pressed down well. I had such high hopes for this (I have 9 UFOs to sandwich), and am so disappointed. :cry:

sewnsewer2 03-28-2010 06:42 PM

I don't use the poly, the spray doesn't stick well for me.

It will stick to warm & natural and the 505 is the best. You can find it here among other places.

http://allstitch.com/department/temp...rays-10035.cfm

Deb watkins 03-28-2010 06:44 PM

I only use the Warn and Natural as well. Found that basting spray did not stick to the poly....sorry that you spent so much time on it and was disappointed. I know how frustrating that can be!

sewgull 03-28-2010 06:51 PM

Have tried spraying the fabric? Then wait a few seconds before hand pressing the fabric to the poly.

Jim's Gem 03-28-2010 07:14 PM

I have only used it with Warm and Natural. And I always use the 505
It should work with the polyester.....

littlehud 03-28-2010 07:18 PM

I have used poly batting and it worked fine. It could be the spray you are using. I use 505 or Sullivans.

Bottle Blonde 03-28-2010 07:19 PM

If you used (heavy) starch on the backing fabric or the pieced quilt top - the basting spray won't hold very well.

2wheelwoman 03-28-2010 08:38 PM

Thanks for the info. I had tried spraying the fabric, but that didn't seem to help. I also used starch on the backing fabric, but not on the top. I just got myself up from crawling around on the floor pinning two of them. Yuck! I ache all over and wonder how I'll get up the darned stairs. Maybe I'll just sleep in the recliner. My knees don't like pinning. :-(

Prism99 03-28-2010 08:47 PM

I have used Sulky and Sullivan's successfully for spray basting, even with heavily starch backings; however, I use only 100% cotton batting (Mountain Mist Blue Ribbon).

Pickles 03-28-2010 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by 2wheelwoman
Thanks for the info. I had tried spraying the fabric, but that didn't seem to help. I also used starch on the backing fabric, but not on the top. I just got myself up from crawling around on the floor pinning two of them. Yuck! I ache all over and wonder how I'll get up the darned stairs. Maybe I'll just sleep in the recliner. My knees don't like pinning. :-(

I'm like you , my knees are really bad and my back so what I do it I put up two sew horses the heavy plastic kind and then I have a large piece of ply board that I set onto of the sew horses
and then I tape my backing down on it and then sandwich and pin away. It works for me and no bending over are crawling around to do it. Hope this might help some of you.

patricej 03-29-2010 12:26 AM

the others are correct. spray basting doesn't work well while doing the actual quilting on polyester batting. i still use it on poly, though. it helps me position the top and back correctly. it does hold things in place while i baste. since there's no way i could survive basting on the floor or any other low surface, that little bit of help is a whole lot better than no help at all.

Barb_MO 03-29-2010 04:32 AM

I finally had a very successful basted experience with June Tailor spray. I laid down my bat, warm & natural, put my backing on top of the bat. Smoothed it out pretty good, them folded the backing back from one end to the other. Sprayed the whole half of the quilt, smoothed out the backing on the bat, patted it in place. did the other end then turned that over and did the same process with the quilt top.
I have almost got the quilt quilted with my home machine without any shifting and very little pins.
I did this on the deck with an old sheet place on the deck for protection.

Ditter43 03-29-2010 08:24 AM

That is so disappointing for you! I swear by the 505 spray. It has never failed me and I find I can use less of it then some other sprays...

Ditter

BellaBoo 03-29-2010 08:38 AM

The very best way to baste is with water soluble thread in my machine. It's the only way I baste now. The price of the thread is worth every penny in the frustration and time it saves me. There are many online sites to buy it. Here is one:

http://www.redrockthreads.com/misc-t...ble-thread.asp

mamaw 03-29-2010 04:57 PM

Warm & Natural works great with 505

penski 03-29-2010 05:18 PM

i only use 505 it is worth its weight in gold i have tried other sprays and they dont hold together like 505 i have carried a quilt around back and forth and the 505 always worked for me but i also use warm and natural batting

oatw13 03-29-2010 07:02 PM

For me, spray basting was definitely a learning process. I have tried 505, Sullivan's, June Tailor, and even Aqua-Net! I eventually learned that the spray was not my problem, it was my technique and the temperature. We live in the Denver area, so I learned that in the winter, when our house is cold, the spray basting just doesn't stick. I have to do it in a warm room and on a hard surface. I have found that the dining room table and the wall in the dining room work the best.

I think 505 is the best, mostly because it has little to no odor. The Sullivan's works well but it has lots of overspray for me and it smells awful! It took me longer to clean the overspray then it did to baste the quilt! The June Tailor works if you are going to quilt in a day or two, but after that it started to lose it's tackiness. And the Aqua-Net also worked fine on small pieces that were quilted right away.

Don't give up! It took me a good 6 months to figure it out and now I see what all the fuss is about! Just keep trying. Start with small baby quilts, wall hangings, place mats, etc. until you get the hang of it. You'll get it!

Pats8e8 03-29-2010 11:05 PM

[I think 505 is the best, mostly because it has little to no odor. The Sullivan's works well but it has lots of overspray for me and it smells awful! It took me longer to clean the overspray then it did to baste the quilt! The June Tailor works if you are going to quilt in a day or two, but after that it started to lose it's tackiness. And the Aqua-Net also worked fine on small pieces that were quilted right away.]

That is my question, I love spray basting, but the last one I had was so strong smelling, my DH had a fit. He is a retired chemist and was all over that can, telling me how awful it was to use for health reasons, etc. I do have asthma, but cannot smell due to allergies, so I hadn't noticed the smell at all. I need to find one that he won't be able to smell. haha I have 3 seams to quilt on that quilt and then it will be ready for binding. I only pinned the outer border, no pins in the center at all and it did not shift.

Gwyn 03-29-2010 11:36 PM

I put my quilt on the quilt frame to sandwich it. Am I missing something? Sure, it takes up the whole living room, but nobody complains that they need to fix dinner so I can get the quilt finished and the frame down. Why are you pinning on the floor?

Trupeach tells me heavy duty hair spray works well for her, but I think she uses a natural fiber batt.
Pinning on the floor? Oh my knees and back. Isn't it just that much more difficult to put on the frame after it is full of pins?

I use either warm and natural or white flannel fabric for batting most of the time. It sort of self-sticks and is easy to quilt. My needles go right through.

Please, will someone clue me in on this pinning thing? I am self-taught and don't understand.

2wheelwoman 03-30-2010 09:21 AM

Not everyone has a quilt frame, at least I don't. In order to make my quilt sandwiches for quilting, I lay out the backing, right side down, then the batting, then the top, right side up. Then the choices are to either baste it using needle and thread, or pin it using curved safety pins, in order to hold it all in place for the actual sewing. I don't have any tables big enough to lay it out on, hence the floor being used. Hope that explains it and isn't just more confusing.

And for all the other responders, thanks for the input. I'll definitely be using my warm and natural with the next can (505) I use. Meanwhile, until I get through this 20 yds of batting, I guess I'll be a-pinnin' away.

Prism99 03-30-2010 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Pats8e8
That is my question, I love spray basting, but the last one I had was so strong smelling, my DH had a fit. He is a retired chemist and was all over that can, telling me how awful it was to use for health reasons, etc. I do have asthma, but cannot smell due to allergies, so I hadn't noticed the smell at all. I need to find one that he won't be able to smell. haha I have 3 seams to quilt on that quilt and then it will be ready for binding. I only pinned the outer border, no pins in the center at all and it did not shift.

You might want to spray outside. Some people tape a sheet to a garage wall to catch overspray. You can also lean a foam insulation sheet against a garage door. In any case, you never want to spray baste without good ventilation.

BellaBoo 03-30-2010 10:02 AM

If you have access to a no baste quilt frame with the three or four poles that works great for basting and you can sit down in front of it. I bought a used Grace EZ frame just to use for basting.


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