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fatquarters 02-18-2012 08:13 PM

used 8 color catchers and still have dye bleed
 
Help! What do I do now???

Red onto white=pink


Ok, I was afraid this would happen, so I used 8, and It ran soooo bad I have pink blocks, is there a remedy???

jaciqltznok 02-18-2012 08:53 PM

have you dried it? if it is still wet, throw it in with some retayne..it MIGHT help, then wash with color catchers again..if not...I can not bring myself to say to what the outcome might be!

mighty 02-18-2012 08:56 PM

Oh no, I would do as Jackie suggested, hope everthing turns out ok.

annies-best 02-18-2012 08:59 PM

that is aways my fear of red I prewash and prewash and if it still bleeds i don't use it with anything light. I wish there was a easy answer but you may have to live with pink. I hate to admit it but i learned the hard way i ended up putting my bag,, (TG it was not a quilt) in some bleach water now my white was light pink and my red was pink but i liked it better it looked like I did it on purpose

BETTY62 02-18-2012 09:01 PM

I am so sorry your color catchers failed. I have no remedy to offer. Please tell us what brand you used.

fatquarters 02-18-2012 09:18 PM

Well I have not dried it in the dryer, its still wet, and just hung it up hoping someone knew of a great idea. of course its saturday and LQS will be closed tommorrow, if they have anything to help.

The color catchers didnt really fail, maybe i needed more??? they are all pink too! Im so stupid, I put burgandy minky on the Back:o. The good thing is - it was for ME.:( The bad thing was I really liked it

Gramie bj 02-18-2012 09:37 PM

Color caters are NOT designed to stop the bleeding, they just catch the color that bleeds out. Retyane SETS the color to stop bleeding, read the label carefully before you start. The water must be hot. After using it there are special washing requirments, cold water. Good luck. Hope you get the pink out.

Scissor Queen 02-18-2012 09:42 PM

I wouldn't use Retayne on something that has already picked up a dye. It'll set that dye!! Use Synthropol. It keeps loose dye from setting in other fabrics. Just make sure you wash it with a lot of water.

Prism99 02-18-2012 10:39 PM

Scissor Queen is correct. You do *not* want to use Retayne at this point, as it will permanently set any bleeds. You want to use Synthrapol with lots of hot water. Domestic front loading washing machines do not have any water for this process to work. It may take several washings with Synthrapol to remove all the bleeds.

Retayne permanently sets dye. Synthrapol suspends unset dye particles in water so they can be rinsed away instead of settling into fabric.

I never rely only on color catchers for a first wash. Washing in Synthrapol with lots of water would likely have prevented this problem in the first place.

ckcowl 02-19-2012 02:34 AM

reds need to be pre-washws-before teaming with whites! and washed until no more color runs- some reds never stop-until they are pink- you do not say what kind of fabric it is---batiks and handdyes tend to run the most when it comes to reds-sometimes it is just fugative dye---(excess that was not rinsed out well enough) sometimes it is just they dye and unfortunately will never stop until it is gone-sorry you waited and used it before finding out you had a bleeder- you should always prewash reds- and at least color check other darks retayne may help= synthropol will wash away the excess dye-and keep it from getting on other fabrics- it keeps the dye in the water- and does not let it adhere to the other fabrics in the water- so it may help get the pink out of your whites.

jaciqltznok 02-19-2012 05:33 AM

actually neither product is made to FIX this problem.
Retayne will set the dyes, yes, but so will Synthropol, as she is using a fabric that was commercially made and now they dyes have already migrated.

as a side note, if you dried this quilt, then it will most likely remain pink no matter what you do. BUT, you need to control that red or it will bleed forever!

Here are a couple of good information reads about this problem.

http://www.textiletraditions.com/res...bric.htm#bleed

http://www.howtocleanstuff.net/how-to-remove-bleeding-dyes-from-clothing/




NJ Quilter 02-19-2012 06:33 AM

Had this issue with a green once. And I had even pre-washed it! Didn't know about Retayne or Synthropol at that point. Was fortunately able to get all of the bleeding out but washed that quilt I don't know how many times with color catchers and still had dye on them. Finally gifted the quilt with a box of color catchers and told them to only wash it alone and with the color catchers.

Lori S 02-19-2012 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by jaciqltznok (Post 4987680)
have you dried it? if it is still wet, throw it in with some retayne..it MIGHT help, then wash with color catchers again..if not...I can not bring myself to say to what the outcome might be!

DO NOT USE RETAYNE... It will set the dyes.. Use Synthrapol. As a rule of thumb ... retayne prior to cutting to set the dyes. Synthrapol once constructed to remove excess and keep the errant dyes from setting.
The chances of having sucess with Retyane are slim... you stand a better chance with synthropol. And note it would have worked best if you had used it with the first wash. I have had success using it "after" the bleed , but it was used very quickly.

fatquarters 02-19-2012 07:52 AM

Thanks for the advice, I realize that it was a dumb thing to do, but its done, I am going to wait till LQS opens and hope she carries synthrapol, soulds like something I need to buy. the quilt was never in the dryer-so I hope that helps. I never used retayne on it because I was already worried about bleeding, and you need HOT water, so I was affraid to make it worse, I had decided to do a cold wash first. The quilt is a scrappy, and l will use it even pink but would rather it wasnt. Thanks so much for the advice.

lfw045 02-19-2012 08:20 AM

Cold water, I hope.

Prism99 02-19-2012 09:28 AM

If you can't find Synthrapol at the LQS, you can order it online. Amazon carries it. And yes, it helps if the quilt has not been through the dryer as heat can set some dyes.

Someone else on the QB had this problem and posted before photos. She was able to get out all the bleeds by using Synthrapol in hot water in a very large Jacuzzi tub. She did say she was frightened by how much additional red bled at first, but she kept changing the water and adding Synthrapol and it finally all came out.

As others have mentioned, Retayne is to be used on individual fabrics before they are ever used in a quilt. If you have a bleeder red fabric, for example, one or (at most) two washes in Retayne should permanently set the dyes. If a fabric still bleeds after two washes in Retayne, it should not be used in a quilt.

Once fabrics are in a quilt, Synthrapol suspends unset dye particles in water so they can be washed away instead of settling into other fabrics. A lot of water is needed so that, if there are a lot of dye particles, they can be adequately dispersed throughout the water. Synthrapol does not set dye particles. It has detergent qualities so, to some extent, will lift unset dye particles from fabric. It can take several washings for Synthrapol to lift out all unset dye particles from a bleed.

fatquarters 02-25-2012 08:00 PM

I AM BACK >>>>I bought sythropol and its on its third wash...its worse, but Ill keep washing, oh my gosh I think it's ruined. The dye just keeps running and the white spares get pinker with each wash, even with the synthropol!!!


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