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mrswhite07 03-05-2009 03:40 PM

I'm new here, and kind of having a melt down (plus I'm pregnant and that is adding to my hysteria). I'm making my first quilt, I'm 'lap quilting' a sampler (I'm using this 20 year old book called "Lap Quilting With Georgia Bonesteel"). I have all of the blocks sewn together and I'm adding the borders right now. I'm just using muslin for the borders & backing to keep it simple. I have a few of the blocks completely done already, so I brought one of them with me to match the muslin. I bought 7 yards & I've cut out all the borders... and its not the same kind at all!!! Its much heavier/thicker (this must be because it was the cheapest kind, for some reason I thought I just needed to match the color & that all muslin was the same otherwise). I haven't sewn any borders on yet with the bad muslin... but, how much effect is this going to have if the majority of the quilt is super heavy duty muslin & a few blocks are really light weight muslin? And how hard will it be to quilt it (since I'm doing it by hand)? Should I just get the right kind and suffer the money/time loss? I really want a nice lightweight quilt for our bed for spring/summer (for some reason our military housing thinks you don't need A/C in Colorado!) UGH I'M SO MAD!!! Especially since I spent like 3 hours cutting out 96 3" borders!! HELP!

Shemjo 03-05-2009 03:56 PM

Welcome to the board, Mrs White! from St. Louis. I wish I could help you, but I don't have much experience wiht muslin. I'm sure someone will have some good advice! The best advice I can offer is to BREATHE! I have done some things that I thought at the time were really disasters, but they turned out okay! :?

Jim's Gem 03-05-2009 04:03 PM

Welcome from Southern California. I don't use muslin in my quilts so I'm not sure how to help you. I am sure that there is someone here on the board that will. I was a military wife for 20 years. I understand!

Moonpi 03-05-2009 05:17 PM

As long as the color matches, you probably won't see the difference until years down the road when the thinner fabric wears faster. For hand quilting, the thinner stuff will go faster.

I've never used a lot of muslin - my experience is the muslin shrinks unpredictably.

sharon b 03-05-2009 06:39 PM

I can't he;p with the muslin problem, but wanted to say Hi and Welcome from Northern Indiana ! Hang in there , someone here will be able to help you. Great group of helpers here :lol: Also we love pictures (hint) :wink:

Sharon

littlehud 03-05-2009 08:08 PM

I don't use much muslin because of the shrinkage. If its a wall hanging and will not be laundered much it may be ok if the weight is not the same.

Marcia 03-05-2009 08:28 PM

MrsWhite--welcome to the board from GA.

I am sorry that you are frustrated with your quilt. I think you are better off using the same weight of muslin throughout your entire quilt, including the borders.

Where did you buy your original muslin? Did you return to the same store to buy more? Are you sure that what you purchased the second time is muslin? (I am not trying to imply that you do not know what you are doing--there are other fabrics that are the same color as muslin, but actually are not and sometimes they are in the same place in the store) Shopping for muslin is sort of like shopping for sheets--it is all about the thread count. If you buy a cheaper muslin that is a looser weave it is going to shrink more. If you buy a muslin with a higher thread count it will shrink less.

Can you please post a picture of the blocks you have made for your quilt? Maybe we can help you with some ideas so that you are not so frustrated!!

Good luck with your pregnancy---when are you due?

My husband was in the Arny for 30 years. We were stationed in Colorado Springs for 2 of those years. Unless it has gotten hotter and more humid there, you will not need air conditioning in the summer.

lyndawn 03-05-2009 08:36 PM

I had a similar experience recently. I could not find a decent muslin here in my area. I used two different kinds and the color didn't even match perfectly. Once done, you could barely notice the difference.

If it is just for general use I would just use what you have. but, that's just me. I am one who hates waste whether it be time or money.

Lynette

gcathie 03-05-2009 09:03 PM

I too would want all the same muslin in my quilt ....cause they will shrink differently and show color change.....that's my 20 words worth.....:-).....Good luck and Colorado is usually dry so the heat isn't too bad...lived there 3 years....husbands from there and he said they had what the call a swamp cooler.....AKA air conditioner......:-)......hope this helps....

BellaBoo 03-05-2009 11:39 PM

I would finish the quilt with what I had and not fret about it at all. Don't even think about mentioning the difference to anyone when they admire it. :wink:

Suz 03-06-2009 10:01 AM

Using two or more muslins adds to the charm of the quilts. If possible, mix up the different muslins when puttin the top together. Don't put the same lighter muslins side-by-side since it appears there will be fewer of them.

Welcome and good luck. Suzanne

mrswhite07 03-06-2009 10:34 AM

Hey thanks everyone!! I think I'll just use the 2 different kinds & spread it out, unless it ends up being way to hard to quilt through. And, the more I look at it, the thicker muslin is slightly darker too.. must be the difference between sunlight & fluorescent.

I didn't even think about it not actually being muslin! I had trouble finding the grain line (well, without the selvage, I wouldn't have been able to), it seems like both directions of the material stretch the same amount. Is that how muslin normally is?

Prism99 03-06-2009 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by mrswhite07
Hey thanks everyone!! I think I'll just use the 2 different kinds & spread it out, unless it ends up being way to hard to quilt through. And, the more I look at it, the thicker muslin is slightly darker too.. must be the difference between sunlight & fluorescent.

I didn't even think about it not actually being muslin! I had trouble finding the grain line (well, without the selvage, I wouldn't have been able to), it seems like both directions of the material stretch the same amount. Is that how muslin normally is?

This is very much in the spirit of quilting years ago, when women had to make do with what was available. I do think it adds to the charm of a quilt.

butterflywing 03-06-2009 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Moonpi
As long as the color matches, you probably won't see the difference until years down the road when the thinner fabric wears faster. For hand quilting, the thinner stuff will go faster.

I've never used a lot of muslin - my experience is the muslin shrinks unpredictably.

moonie and mrswhite - do you think that prewashing and machine drying the muslin would help with the shrinkage AND the softening? that might bring the two different weights more in line. sometimes what feels heavier is just full of sizing that washes out. surely the washing and drying would make it easier to sew. yes?

pocoellie 03-06-2009 07:24 PM

Welcome from NE CA. Glad you joined us.

Moonpi 03-06-2009 08:00 PM


butterflywing moonie and mrswhite - do you think that prewashing and machine drying the muslin would help with the shrinkage AND the softening? that might bring the two different weights more in line. sometimes what feels heavier is just full of sizing that washes out. surely the washing and drying would make it easier to sew. yes?
I thought of that, too. Some muslins will shrink after they are re-washed, and not just the first time. I love the look of muslin, and I know some people are happy using it, but I would not trust it as a large part of a quilt. I've never had problems using it in applique. I bet a year from now, you won't be able to tell one from another.

mrswhite07 03-07-2009 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by butterflywing

Originally Posted by Moonpi
As long as the color matches, you probably won't see the difference until years down the road when the thinner fabric wears faster. For hand quilting, the thinner stuff will go faster.

I've never used a lot of muslin - my experience is the muslin shrinks unpredictably.

moonie and mrswhite - do you think that prewashing and machine drying the muslin would help with the shrinkage AND the softening? that might bring the two different weights more in line. sometimes what feels heavier is just full of sizing that washes out. surely the washing and drying would make it easier to sew. yes?

I prewashed & dryed it, so hopefully that will help with the shrinking. And, I tried quilting through it, and I think it will be fine as long as I use the lighter weight muslin for backing, so I'm not sewing through 2 layers of real heavy muslin. I'm hoping to finish it soon (HA! right), so I'll have to post pictures when I'm done.

2 Doods 03-07-2009 08:12 AM

My MIL made a quilt with her aunt that is muslin with cross stitching all over in taupe and metalic gold. It must have been done in the 1950 or a little earlier. I don't know why they were unable to use all the same muslin but there are 2 types. I don't know if it always showed but does now after aging. However, it is still a very striking quilt and I hope it makes it to my home someday :lol:


GiGi 03-07-2009 11:07 AM

Just my two cents: If you take your muslin and serg around all edges BEFORE you wash it, it will maintain it's shape better and not unravel and shrink as bad. If you don't have a serger, just zigzag around the edges. This is good for all fabric as it will have an easier time in the washing machine unless you have one of the tumblers like in the laundry mat. In addition, the delicate cycle is much nicer to the fabric. That's my two cents for what it is worth; it has always worked for me. GiGi :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o

butterflywing 03-07-2009 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Moonpi

butterflywing moonie and mrswhite - do you think that prewashing and machine drying the muslin would help with the shrinkage AND the softening? that might bring the two different weights more in line. sometimes what feels heavier is just full of sizing that washes out. surely the washing and drying would make it easier to sew. yes?
I thought of that, too. Some muslins will shrink after they are re-washed, and not just the first time. I love the look of muslin, and I know some people are happy using it, but I would not trust it as a large part of a quilt. I've never had problems using it in applique. I bet a year from now, you won't be able to tell one from another.

sooooo...do you think there's any hope that they will shrink evenly at all?

or do you consider that this would be an ongoing problem with two different muslins?

Prism99 03-07-2009 02:24 PM

With the prewashing and drying, it's unlikely either muslin will shrink a lot in the second washing. Some shrinkage in the fabric is okay anyway; it just adds to the crinkle quality of the quilt. Given the fact that you have prewashed and dried the fabric in the dryer (most of the shrinkage comes in the dryer, because of the heat), I think you will be fine.

Also, quilting itself controls shrinkage. If you want to be extra safe, just quilt more closely. I did a class with Harriet Hargrave once and she showed us a flannel quilt she made to prove to her students that prewashing isn't necessary, even with flannels that ordinarily shrink a lot. She used unwashed flannel, quilted fairly heavily, measured the quilt, washed and dried it, and measured it again. Those fabrics would have shrunk considerably if washed by themselves, but did not shrink at all in the finished quilt -- because the quilting stabilized them. Not sure I'd do that myself, but she did prove her point.....

Donna Mae 03-09-2009 07:19 AM

I would probably go get the muslin thats all alike. Use the other you have for another quilt.
But I would probably use what I had and chock it up to a learning thing!!
Welcome to the board.

Keep it rockin,
simple quilter

dlf0122quilting 03-11-2009 11:47 AM

As far as the shrinkage goes, if you take the time to add a little more hand quilting in the blocks, it should help eliminate some of the excessive shrikage in the looser woven muslin. You are doing just fine. You will some day look back on this and just realize as we all do that some things are meant to be lessons learned on the path.

Let us know when that baby is due. Do you know what you are having and is the quilt for the baby?

Hi from Southern California.

nantucketsue 03-11-2009 12:45 PM

I agree with Butterflywing. I would wash the heavier muslin on a hot wash, I always wash my fabric anyway in case of shrinkage, but in this case it might also help lighten the shade. Goodluck with whatever you chooose to do.

Ellen 1 03-11-2009 03:59 PM

I use muslin all the time..........I L-O-VVVV-E mulsin. I try to get as close as I can to the same weight, but I am more concerned about matching the color than the weight of the fabric. AC not REQUIRED in Colorado, nice to have some days though.....hope you have a brick house. :)

medots 03-11-2009 04:55 PM

Honey, if this is your first quilt finish it with what you have, you will probaly be stationed some where alse, and need a warmer quilt. I'm sure this will not be the last quilt you will ever make, You have a baby on the way, have you thought of making a quilt for him or her? A good place to practice. This quilting just gets in the blood.
Good Luck
medots
:lol: [b]

Skeat 03-11-2009 05:28 PM

mrswhite07, You will be just fine!:)Breathe, put your feet up and enjoy this special quilt and the process of waiting for something special!:) I love my quilts not to be 'perfect' in every sense. If you ask, I will say on purpose:)I like to use different backgrounds, etc. I have never been upset if I run out of a particular fabric and neither should you. We quilters have been savy for 100's of years! Long before there were judges or women needing good glasses to peek at your stitches:) Quilting is relaxing and you will so enjoy creating something to hug those that you love. I personally love muslin and the fun in creating a cozy look with them. So an understandable first pick:)We are here for you and ready to help w/any questions to help you make this a very special delivery in all ways!:)Congrats! Skeat...who hand and machine Pieces and quilts! Love all of it!

JoanneS 03-11-2009 08:30 PM

Hi and welcome!

If you DO decide to go back to the store and get a muslin that matches the blocks you've already made, don't think of it as 'wasting' money, think of the 'first' muslin as 'adding to your stash.'

If the different weights and colors REALLY bother you, now's the time to do something about it. However, no one else is likely to notice, and you MAY be obsessing a little too much! I agree with Suz - different colors of the neutrals as well as the 'real' colors add to the charm of a quilt.

GailG 03-12-2009 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Donna Mae
I would probably go get the muslin thats all alike. Use the other you have for another quilt.
But I would probably use what I had and chock it up to a learning thing!!
Welcome to the board.

Keep it rockin,
simple quilter

Welcome to the board. I'm kinda thinking like Donna Mae.
When I first began reading about your dilemma, I thought that perhaps you should (if you could afford it) put the one you were unhappy with aside for another project and purchase something that would "match" your first muslin a litlle better. Then while reading through the thread, I began thinking that the use of what you already had on hand would give character to the piece. And that would give a story to your quilt. Isn't that what our fore-mothers did? They used what was on hand. So whatever you do will be right -- right for you. Good luck in finishing your project.

A-hem---here in the deep south, we only need covers for our beds if we turn the AC down low. :lol:

Mousie 03-13-2009 06:47 PM

welcome from another Floridian. congratulations that your going to be a new mommy, and a quilter!
I didn't know there were places in U.S. that you could go all summer with no A/C, although we did it here in Fl for many years bc we couldn't afford it. Me and the kids used to put water in the kiddie pool and sit in lawn chairs with our feet in it, under big shade trees. Praises be we don't have to do that anymore.
lots and lots of good advice etc. here. Skeat can't remember everything you said, lol, but know I liked it.
Ahem, Gail, as another 'southerner' and fellow floridian, I thought your last sentence was both accurate and cute :wink:

GailG 03-13-2009 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by quiltncrazy
welcome from another Floridian. congratulations that your going to be a new mommy, and a quilter!
I didn't know there were places in U.S. that you could go all summer with no A/C, although we did it here in Fl for many years bc we couldn't afford it. Me and the kids used to put water in the kiddie pool and sit in lawn chairs with our feet in it, under big shade trees. Praises be we don't have to do that anymore.
lots and lots of good advice etc. here. Skeat can't remember everything you said, lol, but know I liked it.
Ahem, Gail, as another 'southerner' and fellow floridian, I thought your last sentence was both accurate and cute :wink:

I can relate. Before we had AC, we had an attic fan. It felt wonderful to have a gulf breeze pulled into the house at night, but unfortunately it also pulled in the humidity. In the morning, our pillows were moist, our hair was wet, etc. That AC is one of the many things that I appreciate and am thankful for.

Mousie 03-14-2009 11:54 AM

2nd that!!!! :lol:


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