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mawmaw 01-11-2010 06:46 AM

Has anyone ever used Organ needles in their Viking Designer SE? Schmetz needles are recommended.

ForestHobbit 01-11-2010 09:48 AM

Have not heard of Organ needles. Always use Schmetz in my Viking Designer II.

joeyoz 01-11-2010 09:53 AM

Recommended doesn't mean required or only. Organ needles are pretty good needles. I have used the titanium ones for embroidery.

BellaBoo 01-11-2010 09:56 AM

Organ is the top of the line needles. I love the titanium coated ones, they last much longer then the regular needles. Most new machines come with Organ needles.

http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...ines/products/

JJs 01-11-2010 10:01 AM

I use Organ needles in everything...
and besides all my vintage Singers I also have a Brother 2003D and Singer XL1000 embroidery machines and a Bailey mid-arm machine .. so when I say everything, I mean everything

http://www.allbrands.com/products/abc0609.html

Nursesews 01-11-2010 01:25 PM

I love Organ Needles, have used them for years with my embroidery and recently with regular sewing. I bougt them originally from a place in N.C. on the net and paid like a $1.00 for a package of 5. Does that tell you how long ago it's been :wink:

ForestHobbit 01-11-2010 02:20 PM

Just went to this site (allbrands) and in their introduction they said Organ needles are designed specifically for machines made in Japan/Asia. They recommend Schmetz for European made sewing machines and Brazilian made needles for Singer sewing machines.

So . .. has anyone actually used Organ needles in a Viking? I'm hesitant to use these needles if they aren't meant for a European machine.

butterflywing 01-11-2010 03:14 PM

i use organ in 2 janomes and in my viking. have done for oh, 20? years.

nellebelles 01-12-2010 01:35 PM

I have a Designer SE, a Designer 1, and a Sapphire 870. I use Organ needles in all of them with no trouble. My husband is (was...retired due to health issues) a sewing machine technician and he puts Organ needles in the machines he services too.

mawmaw 01-12-2010 01:43 PM

Thank all of you for your replies. I ordered some Organ needles last night.

Margie 01-12-2010 01:55 PM

I love organ needles. My embroidery machines do better with those than any other kind.

margie

butterjoy 01-12-2010 01:55 PM

I have never heard the name Organ before. Can this be used on all Brother sewing machines?

joeyoz 01-12-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by butterjoy
I have never heard the name Organ before. Can this be used on all Brother sewing machines?

Yes they can. I have a Babylock which is pretty much like the Brother. I used to have a Brother.

butterjoy 01-12-2010 02:02 PM

Cool, Thank you!

sewnsewer2 01-12-2010 03:22 PM

I use organ needles for everything too! I get mine from allstitch.com and they are 100 for $10.95. I just got some from them the other day. They are great and ship FAST!

Oklahoma Suzie 01-12-2010 05:20 PM

Never heard of them.

butterflywing 01-12-2010 08:57 PM

i get mine from atlanta thread company.

Jingle 01-13-2010 05:34 AM

My Juki TL98QE came with organ needles and they are all I use, If I used my other machines I would use them in those also. They work great.

butterjoy 01-13-2010 05:41 AM

Sewnsewer2
There are a variety organ needles but, I am not sure which one to choose. My machine is Brother CS6000i
Can you or anyone advice me?
Thanks,
JOY

butterflywing 01-13-2010 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by butterjoy
Sewnsewer2
There are a variety organ needles but, I am not sure which one to choose. My machine is Brother CS6000i
Can you or anyone advice me?
Thanks,
JOY

you would choose them the same way you choose other brands of needles. by size and point required. i don't believe they make a double.

sewnsewer2 01-13-2010 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by butterflywing

Originally Posted by butterjoy
Sewnsewer2
There are a variety organ needles but, I am not sure which one to choose. My machine is Brother CS6000i
Can you or anyone advice me?
Thanks,
JOY

you would choose them the same way you choose other brands of needles. by size and point required. i don't believe they make a double.

yes, she is correct. If your machine takes a flat shank then get that one.

I get HA X 1 size 80/12 sharp and 75/11 ball point. Look at your needle in your machine, if the part that fits into the hole to tighten it is round, then choose the round shank, otherwise it's probably the flat shank. Also I get the needles for home embroidery machine, but I use them for sewing too.

Hope this helps.

I have a Bernina so I don't know about Brother.

joeyoz 01-13-2010 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by sewnsewer2
I use organ needles for everything too! I get mine from allstitch.com and they are 100 for $10.95. I just got some from them the other day. They are great and ship FAST!

Wow. Thank you. I usually use the Titanium ones and they are only $19.95 for 100 right now. That's awesome.

sewnsewer2 01-13-2010 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by joeyoz

Originally Posted by sewnsewer2
I use organ needles for everything too! I get mine from allstitch.com and they are 100 for $10.95. I just got some from them the other day. They are great and ship FAST!

Wow. Thank you. I usually use the Titanium ones and they are only $19.95 for 100 right now. That's awesome.

You are welcome, the titanium will last longer, but then if you break it it won't.

:lol:

ForestHobbit 01-13-2010 11:59 AM

The only needles I saw at allstitch were for embroidery machines. Do you use them for sewing on a regular machine? Do Organ needles come in different applications?

sewnsewer2 01-13-2010 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by ForestHobbit
The only needles I saw at allstitch were for embroidery machines. Do you use them for sewing on a regular machine? Do Organ needles come in different applications?


Yes, I use them to sew everything too. They seem to be a little stronger than sewing needles that bend more easily.

I use them in my kenmore and bernina. The lady at the bernina store is the one who told me I can use them for sewing too, she does.

Now if you want a smaller hole, they have sizes smaller than the 75/11 too.

ForestHobbit 01-13-2010 08:08 PM

Thank you. Sounds like I should check them out.

sewnsewer2 01-13-2010 08:28 PM

You're welcome.

nursie76 01-13-2010 08:36 PM

I'm really confused! Went to Allstich.com and it is the commerical machine needles (ball point) that I find are priced 100 for 14.95. The ones for the home machines are listed at 100 for $43.95. What am I missing?

sewnsewer2 01-14-2010 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by nursie76
I'm really confused! Went to Allstich.com and it is the commerical machine needles (ball point) that I find are priced 100 for 14.95. The ones for the home machines are listed at 100 for $43.95. What am I missing?

Ok, click on embroidery needles (on left side) then click on 15 X 1 flat shank home. Then on flat shank regular eye. You should come to this page http://www.allstitch.net/department/...-eye-10140.cfm

I get the 5th and 6th ones down.

Does this help?

nursie76 01-14-2010 06:24 AM

Definitely! Now, one more question as this needle thing always confuses me. What do I want for regular piecing, quilting, embroidery. I see by the board that some use these for everything, but I never can decide what size...80/12, 75/11. I use gutterman polyester thread for most piecing, Isacord for embroidery. Any guidance would be appreciated.

butterjoy 01-14-2010 06:41 AM

Can you use these on regular sewing and on quilts? I don't know how to use embroidery on my machine yet. I agree with Nursie76 because I do not know what kind of needles to choose due to lack of experience.

sewnsewer2 01-14-2010 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by nursie76
Definitely! Now, one more question as this needle thing always confuses me. What do I want for regular piecing, quilting, embroidery. I see by the board that some use these for everything, but I never can decide what size...80/12, 75/11. I use gutterman polyester thread for most piecing, Isacord for embroidery. Any guidance would be appreciated.

I've never used the gutterman so I don't know what weight it is. However, I do use the isacord and either one works well. Look at your needle you have now to see the size. I only use the BP for knits and towels etc.

Generally speaking, I use the 80/12 for most everything, even yenmet metallics.

I have a kenmore and bernina.

nursie76 01-14-2010 07:00 AM

That is very helpful. Thank you. So if I were to embroider on a towel (hand towel, bath towel, terrycloth in general) I should use a ball point?


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