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zz-pd 08-24-2010 12:39 AM

Thank you for the information. God bless.

madamekelly 08-24-2010 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by granniebj
I've never used either. I plan to tho. I was wondering what kind everyone preferred since I have no clue!

I started with starch, and it cost me an ironing board cover when I made a burgundy and cream project. The starch caused bleeding in the burgundy, and when I tried sizing, no problem. My problem could have been bad color in the burgundy, but using sizing fixed it. Now I just use sizing since I am a bug-o-phobe!

P-BurgKay 08-24-2010 02:09 PM

I use liquid starch and mix it 5 parts water to 1 part starch in a spray bottle, sure cheaper that the canned.

ube quilting 08-24-2010 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by BKrenning
I use both--Magic Sizing on light fabrics and starch on all others and have never had a bug problem since MIL moved out. Her junk food attracted bugs. They all seem to have followed her.

I'm not patient enough to use starch on lights so end up scorching it--even the non-scorching type.

Wool is a different story. It will be eaten very quickly if you don't keep up with the moth crystals or cedar shavings.

Cedar chips is another story. They will discolor anything if they are left together for months. never let cedar touch any material. always have a barrier between cedar and any material even in a cedar chest. In our modern age of cleanliness I don't think starch is to much of a problem. I still prefer Magic Sizing. Why take the chance!

Evie 08-24-2010 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by catrancher

Originally Posted by Moonpi
People have been using starch for centuries with no problems. In fact,old table linens that were heavily starched, are generally in better shape than clothing of the same vintage, which was not.

I would have to agree with this. I have tons and tons of doilies in my cedar chest, made by my grandmother. She had a heart condition and had to lie down most of the day. She was never without some kind of handwork, mostly crocheting doilies. I have HUNDREDS of doilies. Someday I'm going to incorporate them into quilts, but for now, there they sit. And they look as good a the day she made them some 70 years ago.

I also agree. I have a steamer trunk filled with my mom's heavily-starched crocheted doilies and embroidered scraves and have no problems with bugs or discoloration over, I would guess, 20 or 25 years or more. If there's a bug problem it must be caused by something other than the starch.

mayday 08-25-2010 09:09 AM

have never used starch on quilt fabric and would not but have got many many tablecloths/napkins etc that have been blue bagged, starched, ironed and stored for many years in a trunk with no ill effect-------the only problem that I have known with starched fabric is if it gets damp it will mildew badly .

grayladym 08-25-2010 07:18 PM

I have to share this. I completed a 3-day Harriet Hargrave workshop and I'll pass on what she has to say on the subject of starch vs. spray sizing, or Mary Ellen's Best Pressed (my personal favorite until now). She is a well-informed teacher, lecturer and a proponent of cutting all quilting pieces on the grain. About 50 years of quilting, and being a shop owner, teacher/lecturer has proven her method works. To achieve her method, quilters are instructed make a cut at the fold and tear the fabric from the fold to both selveges. Steam press the unfolded fabric absolutely smooth. Then carefully line up the selveges and match the torn edges with an expected fold along the lengthwise grain of the fabric. Now using spray starch, lightly apply and keep these edges together starting at the selvege and easing any excess toward the folded edge with a dry iron. Lightly apply more starch as needed. She told us that starch has an additive that "relaxes the fabric" and no other product has this additive. Using sizing or Best Press is fine after the fabric is straightened, pressing to set seams, etc., though she personally prefers to use only starch. She recommends "Faultless" brand above all others.

I have to tell you that straightening the grain before cutting fabric makes a world of difference in the ease of sewing blocks. I have always relied on using plenty of pins, but I didn't have to use pins hardly at all and my points were fabulous. My 4-patch and 9-patch units were perfect. The seams line up and nest together like gangbusters.

6 members from our local quilt guild took her class and we were all amazed and will follow her method from now on.

Now, I did go to the $ Store this afternoon, and bought 2 cans of Niagara Heavy Duty spray starch for a$1.15, and 2 cans of Magic Spray Sizing because that was the brand they had on the shelves. And I will continue to use the Best Best lavender. I love it, but for straightening fabric, I'll go with Harriet's recommendation and stick with Niagara Heavy Duty.

If any of you ever have an opportunity to take her Freshman Class workshop, check it out. $95 for two 8-hour sessions, plus the purchase of the book, which also included a sandwich bar the first day and chef salads the second day at a local quilt shop. The shop owner provided that lunch as part of the workshop. Harriet lives in a western suburb of Denver. CO. She has a website so anyone interested could check her schedule. It was money well spent.

I've read many of the messages with interest but this is my first time jumping in with any infomation. Please excuse the wordiness of my posting. I'm an enthusiastic supporter of Harriet's method and thought others might be interested.

quiltmaker 08-26-2010 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by grayladym
I have to share this. I completed a 3-day Harriet Hargrave workshop and I'll pass on what she has to say on the subject of starch vs. spray sizing, or Mary Ellen's Best Pressed (my personal favorite until now). She is a well-informed teacher, lecturer and a proponent of cutting all quilting pieces on the grain. About 50 years of quilting, and being a shop owner, teacher/lecturer has proven her method works. To achieve her method, quilters are instructed make a cut at the fold and tear the fabric from the fold to both selveges. Steam press the unfolded fabric absolutely smooth. Then carefully line up the selveges and match the torn edges with an expected fold along the lengthwise grain of the fabric. Now using spray starch, lightly apply and keep these edges together starting at the selvege and easing any excess toward the folded edge with a dry iron. Lightly apply more starch as needed. She told us that starch has an additive that "relaxes the fabric" and no other product has this additive. Using sizing or Best Press is fine after the fabric is straightened, pressing to set seams, etc., though she personally prefers to use only starch. She recommends "Faultless" brand above all others.

I have to tell you that straightening the grain before cutting fabric makes a world of difference in the ease of sewing blocks. I have always relied on using plenty of pins, but I didn't have to use pins hardly at all and my points were fabulous. My 4-patch and 9-patch units were perfect. The seams line up and nest together like gangbusters.

6 members from our local quilt guild took her class and we were all amazed and will follow her method from now on.

Now, I did go to the $ Store this afternoon, and bought 2 cans of Niagara Heavy Duty spray starch for a$1.15, and 2 cans of Magic Spray Sizing because that was the brand they had on the shelves. And I will continue to use the Best Best lavender. I love it, but for straightening fabric, I'll go with Harriet's recommendation and stick with Niagara Heavy Duty.

If any of you ever have an opportunity to take her Freshman Class workshop, check it out. $95 for two 8-hour sessions, plus the purchase of the book, which also included a sandwich bar the first day and chef salads the second day at a local quilt shop. The shop owner provided that lunch as part of the workshop. Harriet lives in a western suburb of Denver. CO. She has a website so anyone interested could check her schedule. It was money well spent.

I've read many of the messages with interest but this is my first time jumping in with any infomation. Please excuse the wordiness of my posting. I'm an enthusiastic supporter of Harriet's method and thought others might be interested.


I'm new too and am just starting to post after lurking for quite a long time. Thank you for your informative post. I also love Mary Ellen's Best Press in lavender!


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