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ube quilting 03-21-2016 08:44 AM

warm & natural bating ? quick!
 
I have a quick ? need a quick answer. Which side of W&N goes to the top or which goes to the backing or does it matter? I'm having a senior moment.:D

Thank in advance.
peace

feline fanatic 03-21-2016 08:46 AM

Bump is up! the lumpy bumpy side will be touching the back of your top. It is the side that has little tiny fleck of cotton plant.

ube quilting 03-21-2016 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by feline fanatic (Post 7500475)
Bump is up! the lumpy bumpy side will be touching the back of your top. It is the side that has little tiny fleck of cotton plant.

Thanks so much feline fanatic, you made my day:D
peace

Bree123 03-21-2016 09:07 AM

The seed side should generally face up because then you will be quilting in the same direction that it was needle punched, making quilting easier. Sometimes, though, when people know that the quilt will be used as a play mat, they put the seed (cotton) side down & the scrim side up. The reason for this is the scrim side is the tougher side & is meant to be the side that gets the most wear & tear. On a regular bed quilt, that's the back side. On a play mat, that would be the top. Personally, I always make them with the seed side up & haven't had any complaints yet but everyone is different. :)

EasyPeezy 03-21-2016 10:00 AM

Yes, seed up. I have a harder time with the warm & white. Can never tell which side is which.
Maybe it doesn't make any difference. Anyone knows?

feline fanatic 03-21-2016 10:14 AM

It is more of a problem for longarmers than for people who quilt on DSM. If loaded upside down the large LA needle pokes through nubs of batting as well. I have had this happen to me on my LA when I accidentally loaded it upside down. I flipped it and no problems. So yes it makes a difference but pretty much only to longarmers whose LA takes the large industrial sized needles..

tellabella 03-21-2016 11:30 AM

For Warm and Natural..."dirty" side up...

Jingle 03-21-2016 12:39 PM

The warm & White I used last year for donation quilts looked the same on both sides.
Seems to me the manufacturer could tell which side goes toward the back. They could print on the package.

Boston1954 03-21-2016 12:54 PM

I go in either direction unless my backing fabric is VERY light.

ManiacQuilter2 03-22-2016 04:56 AM

I have never like W&N because all the stuff that is STILL in their batting. This is what they have officially posted on their website:
https://warmcompany.com/content/faq
I use Hobbs 80/20 batting by the roll.

Mkotch 03-23-2016 02:26 AM

I had no idea that it matters!

Geri B 03-23-2016 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mkotch (Post 7502167)
I had no idea that it matters!


First eyes up....little speckles....and yes, it could matter....if it is needled and put up wrong could cause little puffs of batting to come thru the back...being pushed thru by the force and speed of the needle....on a L/A anyway.

sewbizgirl 03-23-2016 05:44 AM

I had no idea it mattered, either. I tend to put the smoothest side up, so I've been doing it wrong. Never had any trouble with 'bearding' tho.... but I fmq on my dsm only. You learn a lot reading on the Quilting Board!

I too have switched to Hobbs 80/20 because it feels like the cotton but is so much lighter and IMO, nicer. It has a little loft, and the W&W doesn't. It's my favorite.

MarthaT 03-23-2016 06:29 AM

So, is there a right and wrong side of Hobbs 80/20? (Is that the same as Hobbs Heirloom?)

I am mostly a hand quilter and love Hobbs Polydown for hand quilting, but those occasions when I use cotton, I find Warm and Natural hard to needle. So have bought some Hobbs Heirloom to try. Maybe I had the wrong side up on the W&N.

I also prefer cotton for DSM quilting, which I rarely do because I love the therapy of hand quilting.

Onebyone 03-23-2016 07:09 AM

I don't bother with right or wrong side of batting. It touches fabric either way.

Jingle 03-23-2016 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by ManiacQuilter2 (Post 7501356)
I have never like W&N because all the stuff that is STILL in their batting. This is what they have officially posted on their website:
https://warmcompany.com/content/faq
I use Hobbs 80/20 batting by the roll.

Thanks for putting a link to the web site.

Jingle 03-23-2016 11:19 AM

I really prefer high loft polyester batting for my own quilts and all I use for me.
This year I bought polyester batting in a large roll for my donation quilts. It was much cheaper than W&W.

jjs56 03-23-2016 01:38 PM

I never knew this! Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? I have a bolt of Warm and White on my longarm and, as Jingle said, it looks the same on both sides. I went the website and found this in their FAQ:

Is there a right or a wrong side to Warm & Natural or Warm & White?
No, there is no right or wrong side of batting but there is a "scrim" side. When manufacturing Warm & Natural or Warm & White, the cotton fibers are layered onto a scrim - a thin substrate material. During the needle-punch process, barbed needles push the cotton fibers through and entangle them into the scrim. When quilting Warm & Natural or Warm & White, it is usually easier to do so in the same direction it was needle-punched - the cotton side facing towards your quilt top and the scrim side facing to your quilt backing. With Warm & Natural the cotton side is distinguished by its leaf & stem remnants (face to quilt top). With Warm & White there is a side that is shinier and smoother. This is the scrim side and should face to your quilt backing.
You have to have good light or younger eyes than mine to see the shine, but it's there.

Bree123 03-23-2016 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by MarthaT (Post 7502400)
So, is there a right and wrong side of Hobbs 80/20? (Is that the same as Hobbs Heirloom?)

I am mostly a hand quilter and love Hobbs Polydown for hand quilting, but those occasions when I use cotton, I find Warm and Natural hard to needle. So have bought some Hobbs Heirloom to try. Maybe I had the wrong side up on the W&N.

I also prefer cotton for DSM quilting, which I rarely do because I love the therapy of hand quilting.


Most Hobbs products are bonded fibers instead of needle punched like W&N/W&W. So, it doesn't have a scrim & therefore either side can go up. The ones labeled "with scrim" should have the smoother, slicker side facing down.

It's the scrim that makes W&N/W&W tougher to hand quilt. They are nice because of how flat they are, but that scrim is tricky for sure. With hand quilting, you are moving the needle in both directions equally so the direction of the scrim shouldn't make as much difference as it does on a machine.

Another possibility if you want an inexpensive all cotton product is Warm & Plush. It's 50% thicker than W&N so it gives fantastic definition to the quilting but it doesn't have a scrim so it's much easier to push a needle through. I use it for both machine & hand quilting. The only downside is that due to its thickness, I cannot load very many stitches on my needle at once, even with long needles like ThimbleLady's. I bought mine at Walmart.com. For more money, I love the thinner Hobbs Organic Cotton, but that's a splurge for sure.


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