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quiltlady1941 08-02-2012 12:24 PM

warm and natural?
 
can anyone tell me why when doing FMQ on a black backing using warm and natural ..in places the warm and natural batting pull through and left a small dot of the batting on the black fabric.. I can't pick it off so I guess I will just leave it..but it looks kind of funny.

This is the first time that I used warm and natural for my batting...does anyone know why this happen..is it because it was a black backing fabric?

Thanks

ckcowl 08-02-2012 01:08 PM

when the quilt is finished/bound & laundered- those will more than likely disappear-
they happen because the needle with thread- goes up & down- catching on the batting and taking some of it along- generally it sticks a little bit to the thread- especially when using cotton thread- polyester or silk threads don't (cause the batting to stick) so much- can also be a small burr on the needle-
happens with other batts too- not just W&N---and just noticable because it's no black- but really will more than likely disappear when the finished quilt is laundered.

dunster 08-02-2012 01:10 PM

Warm & Natural doesn't beard, so your problem could be caused by a dull needle or a rough thread. The W&N should be placed with the flecked side up, white side down (against the backing). For a black backing you could also buy a black batt.

Deborahlees 08-02-2012 01:19 PM

Try a new Titanium coated needle and good machine quilting thread.

patchsamkim 08-02-2012 02:49 PM

It probably is the needle you are using, not the batting. For future, you may wish to use a black batting when have such a dark back to your quilt. Hopefully when you wash the quilting, the batting spots will disappear.

quiltlady1941 08-02-2012 05:37 PM

opp's I think it must have been the thread as I used a metallic thread as for washing it , this is a wall hanging and I don't want to wash it but seeing that it is a wall hanging no one will look at the back... or I hope they don't...Thanks eveyone for your advice I'll make sure that I make a list of the do's and don't of using dark backing and warn and natural...Thank you all for taking the time to help me out ...

Prism99 08-02-2012 06:22 PM

What you describe is bearding. It is more noticeable on solid dark fabrics, and some battings beard more easily than others. Warm N Natural is needlepunched through scrim, and I have to wonder if you placed the scrim side of the batting facing the top rather than facing the backing. When a batting has a scrim, you typically want to place the scrim on the opposite side from the needle entry, so you are needling in the same direction as the scrim was needlepunched. Almost any batting can beard under certain conditions. A batting with scrim will be less likely to beard if the scrim is the last thing the needle goes through.

Clear as mud, probably...... There are some informative old threads on the QB about bearding. You might want to run a search. You can also Google quilt bearding to find additional info about the problem and how you can prevent it in the future.

quiltstringz 08-03-2012 08:09 AM

If it is a wall hanging and not going to be washed, if it really bothers you could you go over it with a black fabric (won't wash out) pen?

Toni C 08-03-2012 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by quiltstringz (Post 5415208)
If it is a wall hanging and not going to be washed, if it really bothers you could you go over it with a black fabric (won't wash out) pen?

Exactly what I thought. ;)

Peckish 08-03-2012 08:29 AM

You could also try steaming the holes with an iron. I've been successful with this method in the past.

Tartan 08-03-2012 08:35 AM

If it is in just a few spots, instead of pulling on them, take a pin and insert it into the back a little ways away from the batting tuft. Sweep the pin from left to right pulling the little white piece back inside the sandwich. Run your nail over the needle holes to close them up and proceed to the next spot.

penski 08-03-2012 08:43 AM

i would change the needle , i started using titanium needles and love them , i believe they last and work better than any other needle

quiltlady1941 08-03-2012 08:57 AM

WOW! I have a lot of things to try to fix the back of my quilt...
thanks....
tartan for the idea of using a pin and sweeping left and right will try that
peckish the steam thing sounds good too
quiltstringz if everything does not work the marker would be a good thing too

Thank you ladies for all of your advice and ways to fix the problem.. A big thank you to all

MadQuilter 08-03-2012 10:15 AM

I use W&N or Warm and White a lot and it has NEVER bearded on me. Fairfield 80-20 has bearded but after the quilt was laundered, the flecks came off.

gardnergal970 08-04-2012 05:18 AM

I use W&N but I'm not sure how to tell the scrim side and didn't know it was important to have it next to the backing. Can someone help me?

fayeberry 08-04-2012 05:27 AM

How do you know which side has the scrim? I have Warm and White, cannot tell the difference between sides. Have had a difficult time with most recent quilt and wonder if I made this mistake.

Scissor Queen 08-04-2012 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Prism99 (Post 5414134)
What you describe is bearding. It is more noticeable on solid dark fabrics, and some battings beard more easily than others. Warm N Natural is needlepunched through scrim, and I have to wonder if you placed the scrim side of the batting facing the top rather than facing the backing. When a batting has a scrim, you typically want to place the scrim on the opposite side from the needle entry, so you are needling in the same direction as the scrim was needlepunched. Almost any batting can beard under certain conditions. A batting with scrim will be less likely to beard if the scrim is the last thing the needle goes through.

Clear as mud, probably...... There are some informative old threads on the QB about bearding. You might want to run a search. You can also Google quilt bearding to find additional info about the problem and how you can prevent it in the future.

Bearding is when the batting fibers work through the fabric.

Quiltlady330 08-04-2012 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by dunster (Post 5413546)
Warm & Natural doesn't beard, so your problem could be caused by a dull needle or a rough thread. The W&N should be placed with the flecked side up, white side down (against the backing). For a black backing you could also buy a black batt.

That's right. W& N doesn't beard. I like using black batting for the darker quilts.

Deborahlees 08-04-2012 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Quiltlady330 (Post 5417246)
That's right. W& N doesn't beard. I like using black batting for the darker quilts.

I have never seen or heard of black batting....who makes it and where do you buy it ....

BellaBoo 08-04-2012 10:23 AM

Google black quilt batting. I buy it at Amazon or where ever there is a sale online.

mmonroe 08-05-2012 03:29 AM

Everyone has written such excellent comments and information. I have learned a lot Thank you, as always.

WMUTeach 08-06-2012 05:19 AM

Thanks Dunster for the info about W & N having sides. I never noticed or paid attention to the bat having two different sides. I suppose that I could even read the directions on the package right? Tee-Hee-Hee


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