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What is a bobbin washer? I have never heard of that.
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Maybe it's the minkee fabric.
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No help here. I send my quilts out to a longarm quilter.
I just don't think our machines were made to quilt through all those layers. Especially fabrics like the Minkee for backing. |
Are you pulling your bobbin thread to the top when you begin?
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Look at your throat plate - I was told to get one that has one small hole, so I can only use it to straight stitch. Too much can go through the wider holes. Also, if your bobbin has a "finger" on it, thread the bobbin thread through that "finger". Check the tension.
Make sure your machine is very clean and oiled. |
it sounds silly but if you are left handed make sure you bobben is turning the right way in the bobbin case we leftys have to really watch those things
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Well, I am not pulling my bottom thread to the top so maybe that has something to do with it. It can't be the wrong sizr of bobbin because I have only used the ones that came with the machine. I have never purchased new ones yet although that is on my list of things to get.
The bobbin isn't wobbling while filling but the spool does. Would this matter? Does the speed at which you fill the bobbin matter? ie, I heard once not to fill the bobbin with the presser foot fully down, only press to half speed. I do wonder if I am not trimming the tail close enough while filling the bobbin. It could also be that I have been going along and stopped to quickly, unwinding it a bit and then continuing on with loose thread. I will have to try to pay attention to what is going on for details like this the next time it happens. Only I am usually paying more attention to the sewing than the machine itself if that makes sense. I'll try anyway. I would love to stop this. The presser foot has been up while threading though. Tara |
I had that problem with mine and turns out the thread had slipped out of the whateveryoucallit thingy thatv goes up and down! LOL! I know, not very technical, but I'm not terribly tech savvy!
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Interesting problem. I wonder if it would be possible to just phone a local service person and get his/her advice over the phone without having to pay for a servicing/repair of your machine? And is there a toll-free number that you could use to ask the manufacturer of your machine about the problem?
Also, I know from experience that if you don't pull your bobbin thread to the top before you start quilting that you're likely to have problems--and hold both threads towards the back until you've gotten a few stitches in. Good luck! |
Have you tried setting your stitch length to 0 ?
This is what my machine tells me to do when I am doing F M quilting. And it fixed my problems. |
this was happening to my brother while using my machine and the thread was working loose from the take-up arm then it was working loose from the bobbin catch It was exasperating was actually seeing RED After changing thread in top and bottom the problem was solved when I went to throw the offending spool away I noticed he had put a spool of Hand Quilting thread in the bobbin and top So now he knows which thread drawer to stay out of
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Rethread your machine. Cut your top thread at the very top of your machine and pull the cut thread from the bottom so that it will drag any lint out of the machine with it. Make sure your pressure foot is UP. Now thread your machine. You can lower the presser foot to thread the needle. When you start quilting be sure to hold the end of the top thread between your fingers tightly. Hope this works; it usually works for me.
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I was assuming you were pulling the bobbin thread to the top before starting to quilt. That is standard operating procedure for most quilters. Typically you then hold both threads for the first few stitches so they don't get tangled and create a thread nest. (Some machines are supposed to be non-jamming, so maybe this doesn't apply to them. I'm too old to change my ways, though, I think.)
I do think it's a good idea to fill bobbins at half speed, at least for most machines. |
Check to make sure your bobbin is threaded and inserted correctly. Check your top tension, is it too loose? Also, (this happened to me just yesterday) make sure the presser foot is down before you start sewing. All of these things will cause the thread mess underneath.
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Bring your bobbin thread up from the bottom before you start to sew. That way you can hold onto it as you start to sew and no more nests.
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Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
I get so frustrated with machine quilting.
At the moment I am "trying" to machine quilt a twin sized quilt for my son. I have three more UFOs that are all stalled because of the machine quilting. The one I am working on at the moment is a blue and white eight point star alternating with a red and white nine patch for a nautical themed room. The backing is a dark to medium blue bumpy minke. I sew with a Husquevarna 425 Fresia so there is no bobbin tension for me to adjust. It was very recently sent to get cleaned and adjusted and hasn't really been sewn with since I have been doing hand applique latey. The biggest problem (if you have gotten through all that) that I am currently having is getting "nests" of the top thread on the back. I am quilting staight lines currently so am using the walking foot. I get a similar problem when free motion quilting but suspect that in that case I am just moving the quilt too fast. Also, I seem to get the problem almost exclusively in the last third of the bobbin. Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong? I don't like to waste a third of a bobbin every time. TIA Tara |
If you already are using a quilting size needle, the problem could be the size of the bobbin. A friend had given me bobbins to use in my Pfaff machine which looked the same as what I had. However,they didn't work properly..you should be able to freely pull out the bobbin thread whenever it is in the machine. The "offsize" bobbins would catch and cause nests. Hope this helps.
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good luck happens to me too thanks for asking and all the tips
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I have a Husquavarna Sapphire 870 and had problems when using fleece for a backing. I found that I had to switch my fabric selection from woven to stretch and used a sz 14 strretch needle and all worked great. Try those changes. Hope you have better luck!!
KathyKat
Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
I get so frustrated with machine quilting.
At the moment I am "trying" to machine quilt a twin sized quilt for my son. I have three more UFOs that are all stalled because of the machine quilting. The one I am working on at the moment is a blue and white eight point star alternating with a red and white nine patch for a nautical themed room. The backing is a dark to medium blue bumpy minke. I sew with a Husquevarna 425 Fresia so there is no bobbin tension for me to adjust. It was very recently sent to get cleaned and adjusted and hasn't really been sewn with since I have been doing hand applique latey. The biggest problem (if you have gotten through all that) that I am currently having is getting "nests" of the top thread on the back. I am quilting staight lines currently so am using the walking foot. I get a similar problem when free motion quilting but suspect that in that case I am just moving the quilt too fast. Also, I seem to get the problem almost exclusively in the last third of the bobbin. Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong? I don't like to waste a third of a bobbin every time. TIA Tara |
,,,,,, the bobbin from "whipping" the thread around, something that can cause a bird's nest.......
Sometimes the thread whips around when the bobbin is inserted backwards. The thread either goes off to the right or to the left when inserted into the bobbin case. It makes a difference. |
Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
I was also told that longarmers won't take trimmed quilts and the UFOs I have are trimmed down to the correct finished size.Tara
On your bobbin - I only quilt on a longarm, so I would say that you are getting backlash - that is when the bobbin is spinning (twice as fast as the needle is going), you slow down and the bobbin keeps going too fast, giving you too much thread creating a nest. There is a little disc called a Bobbin Genie that you add to your bobbin case and that helps your bobbin to respond better to changes in speed of sewing and prevents backlash. Hope you get this figured out...frustrating to the max when quilting doesn't go right! |
Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
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I'll just be sewing along just fine and all of a sudden I get a nest. No rhyme or reason for when they occur as far as I can tell except that it seems to happen in the last third to quarter of the bobbin. Oh, and as to what stage of trimming my current UFOs are in... well...ummmm.... in my defense I only found out recently that at least the QP say you shouldn't do this and I still have no idea why it matters if you are doing the quilting yourself but... Okay, I'll admit it. All four of my UFOs ONLY need to be quilted. Literally. All four have the binding already sewn on. One of them only needs the FMQ on the border. I only learned to FMQ about a year ago and only actually did any FMQ on a "real quilt" versus just a practice sandwich a few months ago. ....... Tara The reason you don't want to trim your quilts before FMQ is so you have something to hold onto when stitching, especially if you are quilting out to the edge. |
Since you recently had your machine cleaned and tuned, If it were me, and my quilt, I would stop NOW and take the machine and the quilt, with the above pictured "nest" RIGHT IMMEDIATELY to the place I bought it and say "FIX this, and FIX it RIGHT NOW, WHILE I WAIT (please). All of us can give you advice, and great advice at that, but your dealer is the only one who can really diagnose and fix that problem.
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I agree with Gaigai, I hate to do machine quilting!
I do my best, to help the economy, by supporting my local long arm quilter(s). |
Tara, I can feel your pain. You just want to sew and nothing is working for you. All the above-mentioned ideas on this thread are great to check, but if it still doesn't work, you really need to take it back to whoever serviced your machine. It's probably just something simple that isn't quite right. Good luck and please let us all know how it was fixed!
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is your presser foot down. I alway forget to put is down.
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Your bobbin case should have an arrow on it for the correct direction of your bobbin. If you would pull up your bobbin thread (put your quilt under the presser foot like you are going to start sewing) through the fabric - hold onto your top thread and slowly rotate your wheel until you see a loop of thread come up from the bottom - pull it out and then you can hold both the top thread and the bottom thread as you start to sew and you will eliminate the thread nests once and for all. Works EVERY time.
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I have a Viking Sapphire 870 and when I use the walking foot I have to lower the pressure foot tension. It says to do this in the instructions that came with the walking foot. If I don't do this I never know what I'll find on the back. Good luck.
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Make sure to either hold the top thread firmly when you start or tuck it under your pressure foot so the pressure of the foot in the down position holds it firmly. This should prevent most nests as the thread isn't loose to become a nest.
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Minkee could be part of your problem. I heard it is really a problem to quilt.
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Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
The biggest problem (if you have gotten through all that) that I am currently having is getting "nests" of the top thread on the back. I am quilting staight lines currently so am using the walking foot. I get a similar problem when free motion quilting but suspect that in that case I am just moving the quilt too fast. Tara
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Originally Posted by Deb watkins
My machine was doing that as well. I had to shut off the machine, give it a 10 second rest, rethread the top and also the bobbin...worked okay after that.
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I don't have any luck quilting with 100% cotton bobbin thread. I use an all purpose or poly and it seems to have fixed the problem. Also, make sure your bobbin is going in the right direction. Lastly, there are at least two clear plastic bobbins, one is flat and the other is slightly rounded. If I accidentally use the wrong bobbin, I get this too. I wonder if it's the minky... I would try a poly thread if all else fails.
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sometimes i rewind my bobbin onto another....it can be wound too loose.
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Check your thread and see how it is wound on the spool. Some theread must be in the up right position and some need to be in a horizontal position to feed correctly. Check Cindy Needhams website, I think she has information there. If not she is great at reaponding to email questions.
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My old machine did this if I put the bobbin in the case backward. Take out the bobbin and flip it over.
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Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
All right, got a "good" nest
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I had the bird nest type pile up of thread some time ago. I know how frustrating that is. As one person has said, it might be the bobbin. That was my problem. I hadn't used my newer PFAFF in awhile and had not threaded the bobbin correctly. Looked at the machine manual and discovered what I was doing wrong. Good luck. ~Fran
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Originally Posted by Deb watkins
My machine was doing that as well. I had to shut off the machine, give it a 10 second rest, rethread the top and also the bobbin...worked okay after that.
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You must pull your bobbin thread up to the top. Here is a youtube video explaining that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIle...eature=related This information is about 2 1/2 minutes into the video. There are other videos in this series (4 total), plus many others on youtube that might help you with your FMQ. |
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