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FWDesigns 07-06-2011 12:40 PM

Can you tell me what thread line/company you are you using to piece with on your featherweights?

I've tried Aurifil, Mettler and Gutterman threads and none of those are working for me. And I just can't seem to get a good straight stitch or satisfactory tension with them. I was told by another person that they are just too fine a thread to use with the featherweights. So now what? Does the ply/weight of the thread make the difference or what? I'm so exasperated here (trust me you'll see a woman with long hair pulling it all out later on TV if I can't get this fixed or pounding the machine with a hammer - it's touch and go either way right now)! :lol:

So everyone please tell me what you are using in your FW machines to get your straight stitches and balanced tension! I'm up for any and all information. Thanks for any input.

katier825 07-06-2011 12:49 PM

Good old fashioned Coats & Clark!

FWDesigns 07-06-2011 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by katier825
Good old fashioned Coats & Clark!

Hmm...does it matter if it is polyester or cotton thread from them?

traumaRN 07-06-2011 01:15 PM

I have used Guterman, Dual Duty, and Mettler in mine without any problem. I really don't think it matters, it's not the thread, it's the tension on your machine.

katier825 07-06-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by FWDesigns

Originally Posted by katier825
Good old fashioned Coats & Clark!

Hmm...does it matter if it is polyester or cotton thread from them?

I've used whatever Coats & Clark I have around. Some is cotton covered poly, some is just poly. They all seem to work fine on mine. I don't often use any other brands...I'm trying to use up some of my older stuff and my baby likes it, so that's what I feed her! :)

donnajean 07-06-2011 01:20 PM

Have you tried a different size needle? I read that in a quilting newsletter not long ago.

quiltsRfun 07-06-2011 02:06 PM

I've used Coats & Clark and Connecting Threads with no problems. They were both cotton.

BTW, I love Connecting Threads and they're having a sale on their thread right now. Good time to give them a try.

FWDesigns 07-06-2011 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by donnajean
Have you tried a different size needle?

Have tried these Schmetz - Quilting 75/11, Universal 80/12, think I tried a 90/14 too, and Microtex one too

ewecansew 07-06-2011 02:26 PM

Anything goes.

featherweight 07-06-2011 02:28 PM

I use any kind or weight of thread in my FW with no problems. I hae never found a thread that she does not like...

donnajean 07-06-2011 02:30 PM

It has been a while since I used one of the older machines, so I just read the Featherweight manual. It indicated that the presser foot has to be down to adjust the tension. Is that what you tried?

http://www.singer-featherweight.com/...es/singfea.pdf

hobo2000 07-06-2011 02:39 PM

Aurifil and Metallic needles solved my problems. Oh yes, I ose Super fine in my bobbin, gets 3 x more thread on each bobbin so it lasts longer. I love using the superfine prefilled bobbins. On my FW I have to remove the little paper front and back to put into my bobbin. Works great! I do the same on my treade "Helen".

jljack 07-06-2011 02:51 PM

Thanks for the info. I just got a FW, and haven't tried it at all yet. Glad to know they are not picky about thread.

Wine Woman 07-06-2011 02:58 PM

I have no problem with different brands also. Gutterman's is the majority of my threads but I think when these little ones came into existance was Gutterman's even around? Coats and Clark and Double Duty I use also. Are you threading your needle the right way? That is always a problem and remember the needle flat side is to the left I believe not to the back like most machines. I would check these two areas also. Take a deep breath and rethread and reinsert the bobbin. Sometimes that works too. Hope you get it running right real soon.

Nana2Sew 07-06-2011 03:10 PM

I use Coats and Clark or Gutermann. My FW is not picky about thread.

cjtinkle 07-06-2011 03:51 PM

Presencia 60wt 3 ply is absolutely KILLER piecing thread, I love it!

tnjacke 07-06-2011 04:10 PM

I use most any kind of thread in my Singer machines including the featherweight... However, I use ONLY SINGER NEEDLES in them too. There is something about the shank that makes the Singers not like the other needles no matter what the package says. Usually for my piecing I will use a 80/12 or 90/14... On the machines I actually quilt with I use 90/14 Embroidery or a 100/16... Still Singer needles.

AliKat 07-06-2011 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by traumaRN
I have used Guterman, Dual Duty, and Mettler in mine without any problem. I really don't think it matters, it's not the thread, it's the tension on your machine.

I agree. I've had no problem with these on my FW.

Check T-N-T or Threading, needle, tension first. Clean your FW. Then check your timing as it may be off.

ali

BellaBoo 07-06-2011 09:59 PM

The vintage Singers love Coats and Clark threads. I use all brands. I have a 301, FW, and 15 series. The needles for FW and 301 need to be Singer needles as they are a teeny bit different in length. Other brands will work but the Singer needles cause less problems.

featherweight 07-07-2011 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by BellaBoo
The vintage Singers love Coats and Clark threads. I use all brands. I have a 301, FW, and 15 series. The needles for FW and 301 need to be Singer needles as they are a teeny bit different in length. Other brands will work but the Singer needles cause less problems.

I use Schmetz with no problems. I also have the Singer needles but have not noticed a difference.

FWDesigns 07-07-2011 02:56 PM

Thanks everyone for all the info. Here’s some background: I have a 1961 221K Red S badge machine I purchased back in May via EBay. Had a few little issues/repairs that were needed to machine but I was able to fix them. They were just minor-general maintenance stuff. But what I haven't been able to fix is the tension (still doesn't look good to me after numerous tries). So after playing around with every setting and thing to do to it I finally broke down and took the machine to someone back in June to make sure I was doing everything correctly (aka threading, needle placement, oiling, etc). I was told my threads (I primarily use Aurifil & Mettler) were too fine to use in a FW and I needed to use thicker thread. Then I was asked what brand needles I was using (Schmetz) and I was told they weren't good to use but to use a large eye Universal Organ needle. (All of a sudden my brain snapped into gear and started asking…Universal needle for piecing-Huh? What happened to using a good Topstitch, Micro-tex, Quilting or a Sharp needle for piecing?) Then I was told the material I was using to piece quilts was too soft. What? Since when is 100% cotton (Moda/Hoffman/Benartex brands) too soft to use on these machines? I thought I was on Candid Camera or the Twilight Zone. This person was a friend of a friend who I was told was a quilter with many vintage straight stitch machines and knews a lot about FW’s and repairing them. And I was really believing everything I was being told to buy and do (hmm…well until we got to the needle and fabric questions). And it really went downhill on this person’s experience when my friend asked a couple of basic questions and she got some really strange answers.

So since I wasn’t really satisfied with those answers, I asked around and had the name of another person given to me who was guaranteed to be certified in FW repairs. I was told that this person had taken several classes over the years for FW repair and supposedly knew everything on repairing them. So I felt good - I was going to meet someone with experience who could look at and give me an honest opinion on the tension/stitch issue. It was going to be a little bit of drive for me but doable. We meet and they said some of the same things -like to use only Coats & Clark thread and to use a 90/14 Organ needle. They checked needle placement and my threading orientation - said it was all correct. They only sewed 1 line to check it and thought the tension was fine. When I pointed out the thread tension and reached down and actually pulled the thread out (top thread) they tried to change the subject and stated that these machines never really sew a good stitch. Huh?

They remarked several times on how great of shape the machine was in for being 50 years old and that it had really nice decals with no wear to them and asked me several times during our conversation how much I paid for it. Finally I told them the amount and they said, “Oh I hate to tell you this but it isn’t worth that amount” then they turned right around and offered me about half of what I paid for it. They said they knew of someone who was looking for a “toy” sewing machine just like this one for their grandkid and they would be happy to take it off my hands for me. I saw the ploy and sweetly asked them why they didn’t think it was a real FW. They said the lamp wasn’t an Original (OEM) Singer lamp because the switch to turn it on is not on the base of the machine but actually on the lamp. I laughed and asked if they had ever worked on a 221K machine. They laughed back at me and said FW’s are all 221’s and there are no letters to them. Needless to say, I didn’t stay much longer. (Note: I may be inexperienced in fixing the tension but I saw the con job a mile off this person was pulling to get this machine from me and they continued to call me almost every day for a week until I finally had to threatened legal action).

So here I sit confused, frustrated and unhappy over this expensive buy because I can't get a really straight stitch line out of this little sucker. What the heck…have I really gone completely crazy? Because between the quilter's strange answers and then the certified person both saying the tension is fine I don't feel it's right. Being able to pull the thread right out after it is sewn that isn’t having a balanced tension nor is having a wavy, wonky looking seam acceptable...right? Come on be honest...am I expecting too much?

I just got some Organ needles delivered today in my JHittle order so I am going to try those tomorrow when I’m not so frustrated and see how they do in it. I will post a couple of pictures so that you can see what I am describing. Wish me luck!

Carol E 07-07-2011 02:58 PM

My fw will do them all

Debbie C 07-07-2011 03:01 PM

I have two good working FWs and only use Guterman.

QuiltnCowgirl 07-07-2011 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by jljack
Thanks for the info. I just got a FW, and haven't tried it at all yet. Glad to know they are not picky about thread.

:shock: What do you mean you haven't tried her yet?? I thought you would have brought her home & tried her out first thing! :D

Debbie C 07-07-2011 03:13 PM

Do you have a local sewing machine repair center? I had to bring my 1947 FW named "PeeWee" to the local repairman and he had her up and running in about 2 hours for only a very few dollars. The tensioner was 'eating' the Coates and Clark thread that came with her because it was loaded with 'slubs'. My repair guy said to use only Guterman and be sure the flat side of the needle goes to the left when installing.

QuiltnCowgirl 07-07-2011 03:19 PM

Throughout the almost 40 years I've owned my Featherweight I have used every type of thread in her. Have never had a problem.

Sounds like the tension adjustment may need some fine tuning. You may want to contack Lost51 (Billy) He is our vintage machine guru her on QB. Send him a PM & see if he can help you. I hope you find the solution.

featherweight 07-07-2011 03:57 PM

I can't believe they told you they did not have a tight stitch. When I was teaching FW class, I always told the students that they didn't want to make a mistake as it is harder then heck to get them out. The stitch is tight, tight , tight on all 5 of my FW's. Sorry they told you that and that you are haveing so much trouble with the tension...

Tinabodina 07-07-2011 04:06 PM

Coats and Clark - they were around when Featherweights were new.

BellaBoo 07-10-2011 07:40 AM

I have the white color FW same as yours! and when my top thread is loose in the stitch it is because the thread has slipped out of the bobbin notch where the thread is suppose to come out. If the bobbin thread is not coming off the bobbin in the S configuration it will slip out of the notch every time. Most very good condition white color FW on the average sell for $500 - $700.


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