Queen size pattern to Full size
08-04-2011, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MTS
Originally Posted by QuiltE
Exactly!!! and how much you want for tucking around the pillows or not.
These are deep, deep questions. :mrgreen:
08-04-2011, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by shnnn
And also -- who is sharing the bed! I like to have huge blankets so that by morning I may have a corner left after hubby has wrapped himself up like a burrito!
I have just the opposite situation,...dh pushes/layers blankets on me, bc he doesn't want them.
Guess who went "meno." this past year? :oops: :oops: :oops:
...and we've been in a heat wave.
me - twice as much!
I'm going to keep reading as math is my nemesis and I was hoping somebody would type magic on these pages for upsizing and downsizing these tortillas! ;)
08-04-2011, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MTS
See, this is what happens when I'm on hold FOREVER!
I was right. The blocks in your friend's quilt (regardless of what size you call it) are 6" finished.
The two plain white borders (on each side of the outside triangle border) are each 3" finished. So always half the size of whatever your block size will be. That comes out to exactly 96" square.
Here are some measurements if you were to adjust the finished block size:
5.5" = 88" x 88"
5" = 80" x 80"
4.5" = 72"x72"
4" = 64"x64"
Just multiply the block size x 16 and you'll get your measurements.
As you can see, the blocks are either HST or plain, with the exception of the middle block on each side of the triangle border.
I would definitely adjust the block size if I were making it for a smaller bed. Just leaving a border or two off doesn't scale it down, and it will be quite overpowering with the same size image on a smaller bed. JMHO.
You'll have to decide about the other issues - tucking, pillow, platform or bedposts, additional borders - yourself. ;-)
Good luck!
I was right. The blocks in your friend's quilt (regardless of what size you call it) are 6" finished.
The two plain white borders (on each side of the outside triangle border) are each 3" finished. So always half the size of whatever your block size will be. That comes out to exactly 96" square.
Here are some measurements if you were to adjust the finished block size:
5.5" = 88" x 88"
5" = 80" x 80"
4.5" = 72"x72"
4" = 64"x64"
Just multiply the block size x 16 and you'll get your measurements.
As you can see, the blocks are either HST or plain, with the exception of the middle block on each side of the triangle border.
I would definitely adjust the block size if I were making it for a smaller bed. Just leaving a border or two off doesn't scale it down, and it will be quite overpowering with the same size image on a smaller bed. JMHO.
You'll have to decide about the other issues - tucking, pillow, platform or bedposts, additional borders - yourself. ;-)
Good luck!
I bow to your "math-i-ness"! woo hoo!
I agree, a nice pattern/block has to be reduced or the look is overpowering.
I like old quilts, but some of them had chunky sized blocks that aren't that appealing to me in those sizes.
My mom gave me many older patterns and I kept them hoping to figure out how to re-size them. woo hoo! thanks :D
So I can take a six inch block to a copier machine and reduce and then multiply the finished size to make sure that when multiplied it will come out the size I want?
Doesn't seem so daunting a task this way. niiiice! :XD:
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08-04-2011, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mousie
So I can take a six inch block to a copier machine and reduce and then multiply the finished size to make sure that when multiplied it will come out the size I want?
It really depends on what kind of block it is.
In this case, we're dealing with a HST block. Easy. There are a gazillion ways to make HST blocks. As I wrote in my first post on this thread, I prefer the "start with oversize squares, make HST, and trim down to unfinished size" method.
So I would take the finished size, add 1.25+ inches and make the HST, then trim. Of course, depending on your color plan, you have to first figure out how many of each color combo you need.
So there's really nothing to reduce on a copier in this case.
If you're not mathematically inclined, or even if you are, I wouldn't reduce a block into unmeasurable pieces - those that can't easily be cut with a ruler. Unless you intend to do the whole thing with templates. Shoot me, please, if I ever say I'm going to do that. ;-) (Could do it with PP, but that's a whole other issue.)
For instance, if you have a 9" nine-patch block, and decide you want to work with 7" blocks instead (because you want 70" across your quilt), that's just going to create a whole bunch of unhappiness. However, making the blocks 7.5" instead, one less block, and adjusting the border widths would be a much happier and satisfying experience.
Still, I always prefer to work out the math rather than reducing it on a machine.
You just always have to figure out the grid of the block and the quilt. As in this quilt, it was easy to count across to see there were the equivalent of 16 units - 96"/16 blocks = 6" blocks.
It's really easy math - regardless of all the "I don't have a masters in theoretical mathematics so I can't figure this out" doomsayers.
If all else fails, find a bunch of 6th graders. They'll be able to help. ;-)
08-04-2011, 06:16 AM
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[quote=MTS]
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Mousie ... another hint ... remember to keep the differences between finished and unfinished blocks! So a 6-1/2" cut makes a 6" finished. When working with a picture and doing your calculations, start with the finished and be sure to add the 1/4" seam allowances (for all seams and all sides!). Likewise for the HSTs or other subcuts, remember the seams allowances.
And now ... I'll pass the Mousie some cheese to help her brain-power-absorption!!! :)
Originally Posted by Mousie
If all else fails, find a bunch of 6th graders. They'll be able to help. ;-)
Mousie ... another hint ... remember to keep the differences between finished and unfinished blocks! So a 6-1/2" cut makes a 6" finished. When working with a picture and doing your calculations, start with the finished and be sure to add the 1/4" seam allowances (for all seams and all sides!). Likewise for the HSTs or other subcuts, remember the seams allowances.
And now ... I'll pass the Mousie some cheese to help her brain-power-absorption!!! :)
08-04-2011, 08:52 AM
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I bought long ago the book: [u]The Quilter's Pocket Reference: an Easy guide to Yardage and More[/] by Peggy Scholley. It has excellent reduction/enlargement charts. I know they are sold online used or new. Most LQS's have these. This is one of my Bibles for Quilting. I keep my other notes tucked in mine for future use.
There are plenty of net based online conversion charts available to either decrease or increase size. Give it a browse. You can also buy those round guides that many LQS's sell that help you with resizing. Sorry, can't remember what they are called.
ali
There are plenty of net based online conversion charts available to either decrease or increase size. Give it a browse. You can also buy those round guides that many LQS's sell that help you with resizing. Sorry, can't remember what they are called.
ali
08-04-2011, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MTS
Originally Posted by Mousie
So I can take a six inch block to a copier machine and reduce and then multiply the finished size to make sure that when multiplied it will come out the size I want?
It really depends on what kind of block it is.
In this case, we're dealing with a HST block. Easy. There are a gazillion ways to make HST blocks. As I wrote in my first post on this thread, I prefer the "start with oversize squares, make HST, and trim down to unfinished size" method.
So I would take the finished size, add 1.25+ inches and make the HST, then trim. Of course, depending on your color plan, you have to first figure out how many of each color combo you need.
So there's really nothing to reduce on a copier in this case.
If you're not mathematically inclined, or even if you are, I wouldn't reduce a block into unmeasurable pieces - those that can't easily be cut with a ruler. Unless you intend to do the whole thing with templates. Shoot me, please, if I ever say I'm going to do that. ;-) (Could do it with PP, but that's a whole other issue.)
For instance, if you have a 9" nine-patch block, and decide you want to work with 7" blocks instead (because you want 70" across your quilt), that's just going to create a whole bunch of unhappiness. However, making the blocks 7.5" instead, one less block, and adjusting the border widths would be a much happier and satisfying experience.
Still, I always prefer to work out the math rather than reducing it on a machine.
You just always have to figure out the grid of the block and the quilt. As in this quilt, it was easy to count across to see there were the equivalent of 16 units - 96"/16 blocks = 6" blocks.
It's really easy math - regardless of all the "I don't have a masters in theoretical mathematics so I can't figure this out" doomsayers.
If all else fails, find a bunch of 6th graders. They'll be able to help. ;-)
are you a math teacher by any chance? :D
08-04-2011, 08:47 PM
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[quote=QuiltE]
<clap><clap><clap><clap>
Mousie ... another hint ... remember to keep the differences between finished and unfinished blocks! So a 6-1/2" cut makes a 6" finished. When working with a picture and doing your calculations, start with the finished and be sure to add the 1/4" seam allowances (for all seams and all sides!). Likewise for the HSTs or other subcuts, remember the seams allowances.
And now ... I'll pass the Mousie some cheese to help her brain-power-absorption!!! :)
oh, brain-power absorption...yes!
I guess that means you'll be passing me a whole plateful! :wink:
Originally Posted by MTS
Originally Posted by Mousie
If all else fails, find a bunch of 6th graders. They'll be able to help. ;-)
Mousie ... another hint ... remember to keep the differences between finished and unfinished blocks! So a 6-1/2" cut makes a 6" finished. When working with a picture and doing your calculations, start with the finished and be sure to add the 1/4" seam allowances (for all seams and all sides!). Likewise for the HSTs or other subcuts, remember the seams allowances.
And now ... I'll pass the Mousie some cheese to help her brain-power-absorption!!! :)
I guess that means you'll be passing me a whole plateful! :wink:
08-04-2011, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AliKat
I bought long ago the book: [u]The Quilter's Pocket Reference: an Easy guide to Yardage and More[/] by Peggy Scholley. It has excellent reduction/enlargement charts. I know they are sold online used or new. Most LQS's have these. This is one of my Bibles for Quilting. I keep my other notes tucked in mine for future use.
There are plenty of net based online conversion charts available to either decrease or increase size. Give it a browse. You can also buy those round guides that many LQS's sell that help you with resizing. Sorry, can't remember what they are called.
ali
There are plenty of net based online conversion charts available to either decrease or increase size. Give it a browse. You can also buy those round guides that many LQS's sell that help you with resizing. Sorry, can't remember what they are called.
ali
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