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Thread: Renting out time on my sweet 16?

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    Renting out time on my sweet 16?

    Would I be crazy to rent out time on my HQ Sweet Sixteen if I were close by to watch and help? And how much would you charge an hour?

    AnnieSue

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    If you know and trust the people that would rent it. Strangers are more apt to push it to the limit and take chances with it. The LA at the quilt shop here charges to take a course how to use the LA before anyone can rent it and then so much an hour plus cost of batting and thread.
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    In addition to damage to the machine I would be concerned about liability. What if someone sews thru their finger?
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    I think this is a neat idea if you know the people you are renting to...I agree...I would want to be right there.

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    I think it's a great way to help "pay" for your machine.
    I've been hoping that some LQS' would rent it, as they do with LAs.

    It sits idle when you are not piecing, so I've always thought it'd be a great machine for two friends to own together, where they could go to each others homes to use it; and/or that it "lived" in each home for three months (for example) and moved to the other for the next three.

    Some things to consider --
    * liability, as mentioned above; speak with your insurer and discuss
    * do you want other people in your home?
    * how will you handle things, if there are problems with the machine while someone else is using it?
    * are you prepared to teach FMQing? many who rent may not have the skills and will look to you to take them thru it all step by step
    * would it be easier on you to take in custom quilting, instead of renting the machine?
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    There are so many things to consider before you start a business in your home. Liability, which PaperPrincess mentioned, is a big issue, and your homeowner's insurance probably will not cover you for liability or damage to your longarm if you are using it in a business. You also may need a business license, and you have to keep records and pay taxes. In Oregon there's a property tax assessed on any equipment used in a business - not a high tax, but it requires keeping records and filling out forms every year, even if your equipment isn't high enough in value to require that you actually pay anything. If you make enough (the limit is only $400) then you have to pay social security tax and medicare tax on your earnings, and that is more than 15%. If you are already doing longarming professionally, then you have probably already addressed all of these issues and it would not require much additional record-keeping or expense to rent out your system, but it would mean that you would not have access to your machine during the time others are renting it. If you are not already using your longarm in business, then there's a lot to do and you have to decide whether that additional amount of money would be worth the effort. (The other worries - that you would potentially have strangers in your home, that someone might damage your machine, that there could be scheduling difficulties if someone doesn't finish in time and someone else has scheduled the machine...)

    I think renting out time on a longarm is better done in a business location, although there probably are people who have successfully done it in their homes, and of course some probably do it in their homes without thought to the taxes, license, insurance, etc.

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    I wouldn't do it, which is kind of funny, because it was a rental before I bought it.
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    This is a very hard question. Personally I would not want anyone using my machine (If I ever got one.)

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    I wouldnt not risk it to strangers but friends who are familiar with the machine then i wouldn't mind.. I dont know if id charge them for the use but id barter instead.. but then it defeats the way to defray the cost of the machine.. but thats me..

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    Would you rent your car? to someone who had little to no experience ... same kind of issues.

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    before I purchased my long arm I took a 'certification class' at a local shop where I learned all about the machine, from winding bobbins, threading, adjusting tension, quilting with it, cleaning, loading the quilt ect....once I finished my 4 hour 'certification class' I was allowed to rent time on the machine for $20 an hour. I decided to purchase my own machine and have done the same thing with people interested every since (10 years now) when someone wants to learn to use the machine and finish their own quilt they take the certification class from me (which is about 4 hours and costs $50) then they can schedule time and rent the machine to come in and do their own quilts (9 out of 10 of the people who have done this have also decided they would rather just pay me to quilt their quilts = they found it either takes too long- they realize that it takes time/practice to learn to do any custom quilting/ they find it is hard on the legs, shoulders, back/ they just decide it is worth it to them for me to do the work. once in a while one of them may have a special quilt that they really want to do themselves though- and it's $20 an hour for them to come in and do that.
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    I got a new Handi Quilter 18 and let a friend of mine try it out. Never again. She is a very experienced quilter but she started pushing all the buttons to see what it would do ( do ???). it stopped working and I was on the phone with a tech from HQ for an hour before it would work again. I saw her a week later and she had the nerve to ask if I found out what was wrong with my machine. Needless to say our friendship has cooled considerably.

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    Nobody touches my longarm but me and my husband. Its an APQS Millenium and I don't have the time to redo the timing on it if someone messes it up. I paid a LOT for it and it will last me the rest of my life. If someone one wants it quilted they can pay me. I'm extremely reasonable on price, Buy their own machine and maintain it or learn to fmq. Sorry if this sounds harsh. But that is some hard earned cash in that machine even if it still isn't paid for.
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    If I could afford one, I'm not sure I'd let ANYONE touch it unless it was a trusted quilting friend.

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    Years ago I bought a pressure canner and used it exclusively until a friend found out I had it. She wanted to borrow it and I said ok. We "shared" it for two or three years (canning in the summer). When it came time to replace the rubber ring, etc. I asked her to share the cost and she said no, it was mine so it was my job to do any repairs, etc and pay for them. So I did, and told her to buy her own canner. After that experience, I don't loan anything unless it is to my children and I know they will help cover the cost of breakage. My mother used to say " If you can't afford to replace it, don't borrow it."
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    You folks are thorough! I'm glad I asked for help thinking this through.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieSue View Post
    You folks are thorough! I'm glad I asked for help thinking this through.
    Thanks!
    Let us know what your final decision is and if it goes well or not. Good luck with your choice.

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    I am on the other side of this discussion. I would love the chance the learn a bit about LA-ing. I would gladly pay that $50 for a lesson and I dearly wish there was someone in my area that offered me that opportunity. Plus, I think that type of experience would make me appreciate the effort and creativity that goes into professional quilting.
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    Nope, I wouldn't let anyone else use any of my machines!!

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    I do rent out time on my HQ Avante but inly after the quilter has taken a two hour lesson on how to use it and how to operate safely and with care. I am around the entire time as the machine is in my home. We have a business licence and follow all local requirements for safety and business operation. Having said that I am now winding down the amount of rental hours. It consumes all of my time while the quilter is in my home, I have to pencil in a whole day as it is difficult to tell how long it willtake to quilt a quilt with the many factors involved. I have also had the problem of quilters taking my lesson because they then want to buy their own machine and as I have no affiliation with any longarm companies I lose out as I was initially depending on those taking a lesson coming bavk to rent time. i am now taking in more quilts from quilters who want me to do the work an that is a better more controlable option. But I have loved being able to see quilters complete their projects and to know how easy it can be. Just my thoughts and opinions so good luck whatever you decide

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    It's a nice thought but you could probably make more money quilting for others than renting your machine.

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    I did rent some time on a long arm several years ago. It was required to take a class prior to using it. The long arm was in a private home. Another question would be, would you be in the same area anyway or would be take a toll on your time? Would you do better at making money to help defray expenses by offering a quilting service?

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    the lady that owns the quilting store and does our quilting classes has a long arm..she charges $10 an hour

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    The only situation that I would agree to ( I think) would be to LA share & even with that, a written, precise agreement would be a necessity. That way you wouldn't have all kinds of users on your very expensive LA. As Quilte said, there are soooo many issues to consider........before taking on this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieSue View Post
    Would I be crazy to rent out time on my HQ Sweet Sixteen if I were close by to watch and help? And how much would you charge an hour?

    AnnieSue
    I would not do it…..not only do you have the liability issue - but you have training and user issues…….far better that you take in the quilting and do it for them………otherwise, you are going to have problems with your machine that will be costly for you, and that cost you cannot pass along to your user…...

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