Go Back  Quiltingboard Forums > Main
washing fabric >

washing fabric

washing fabric

Thread Tools
 
Old 08-26-2010, 06:45 AM
  #31  
cjr
Super Member
 
cjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 1,250
Default

How much vinegar? how much salt?
cjr is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 06:54 AM
  #32  
Super Member
 
Scissor Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southwest Kansas
Posts: 4,820
Default

Originally Posted by cjr
How much vinegar? how much salt?
Vinegar or salt will not set modern chemical dyes. They are mordants for organic dyes.

Lots and lots of people will claim a fabric stopped "bleeding" after they washed it with vinegar or salt. It would have stopped "bleeding" anyway since it was just excess dye that washed out.
Scissor Queen is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 06:59 AM
  #33  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 327
Default

Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Originally Posted by cjr
How much vinegar? how much salt?
Vinegar or salt will not set modern chemical dyes. They are mordants for organic dyes.

Lots and lots of people will claim a fabric stopped "bleeding" after they washed it with vinegar or salt. It would have stopped "bleeding" anyway since it was just excess dye that washed out.
So what do you use, to set batiks? Do they use modern dyes?
moonwolf23 is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 07:13 AM
  #34  
Super Member
 
Scissor Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southwest Kansas
Posts: 4,820
Default

Originally Posted by moonwolf23
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Originally Posted by cjr
How much vinegar? how much salt?
Vinegar or salt will not set modern chemical dyes. They are mordants for organic dyes.

Lots and lots of people will claim a fabric stopped "bleeding" after they washed it with vinegar or salt. It would have stopped "bleeding" anyway since it was just excess dye that washed out.
So what do you use, to set batiks? Do they use modern dyes?
Yes, they use modern dyes for batiks. Batiks tend to have a lot of unset dye left in them because they're boiled to get the wax out and they don't always get them rinsed really well.

The only way you can set a modern dye is with a chemical mordant. Retayne is a chemical mordant.

One of the things to keep in mind, is even if a fabric "bleeds" and it's picked up by another fabric that dye isn't set and will generally wash out in one or two washes.

Also keep in mind that the vinegar you buy in the grocery store is only 5% vinegar to start with at the most. When you put a cup of vinegar in a washer that holds several gallons of water you're dilluting it to less than a 1% solution.
Scissor Queen is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 07:15 AM
  #35  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 327
Default

Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Originally Posted by moonwolf23
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Originally Posted by cjr
How much vinegar? how much salt?
Vinegar or salt will not set modern chemical dyes. They are mordants for organic dyes.

Lots and lots of people will claim a fabric stopped "bleeding" after they washed it with vinegar or salt. It would have stopped "bleeding" anyway since it was just excess dye that washed out.
So what do you use, to set batiks? Do they use modern dyes?
Yes, they use modern dyes for batiks. Batiks tend to have a lot of unset dye left in them because they're boiled to get the wax out and they don't always get them rinsed really well.

The only way you can set a modern dye is with a chemical mordant. Retayne is a chemical mordant.

One of the things to keep in mind, is even if a fabric "bleeds" and it's picked up by another fabric that dye isn't set and will generally wash out in one or two washes.

Also keep in mind that the vinegar you buy in the grocery store is only 5% vinegar to start with at the most. When you put a cup of vinegar in a washer that holds several gallons of water you're dilluting it to less than a 1% solution.
So how many washes would you do for Batiks then? The last time I did rinsed my batiks, they were still bleeding a little in hot but not cool.
moonwolf23 is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 07:44 AM
  #36  
Super Member
 
Scissor Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southwest Kansas
Posts: 4,820
Default

Originally Posted by moonwolf23
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Originally Posted by moonwolf23
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Originally Posted by cjr
How much vinegar? how much salt?
Vinegar or salt will not set modern chemical dyes. They are mordants for organic dyes.

Lots and lots of people will claim a fabric stopped "bleeding" after they washed it with vinegar or salt. It would have stopped "bleeding" anyway since it was just excess dye that washed out.
So what do you use, to set batiks? Do they use modern dyes?
Yes, they use modern dyes for batiks. Batiks tend to have a lot of unset dye left in them because they're boiled to get the wax out and they don't always get them rinsed really well.

The only way you can set a modern dye is with a chemical mordant. Retayne is a chemical mordant.

One of the things to keep in mind, is even if a fabric "bleeds" and it's picked up by another fabric that dye isn't set and will generally wash out in one or two washes.

Also keep in mind that the vinegar you buy in the grocery store is only 5% vinegar to start with at the most. When you put a cup of vinegar in a washer that holds several gallons of water you're dilluting it to less than a 1% solution.
So how many washes would you do for Batiks then? The last time I did rinsed my batiks, they were still bleeding a little in hot but not cool.
I don't pre-wash batiks. I don't want to spend my time washing fabric. I want to sew.

I just use a color catcher in the wash with a finished quilt and if I give it away I send some color catchers with it.
Scissor Queen is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 08:15 AM
  #37  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Fancy Nancy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 346
Default

yea that is what i do - add a color catcher and send some along with it with quilt washing instructions.
Fancy Nancy is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 08:40 AM
  #38  
Power Poster
 
RedGarnet222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Reno, Nv
Posts: 16,515
Default

I am one of the yes I do pre wash now. It is heart breaking to finish a quilt with lots of hand work and find it is not color safe when you wash it.

I just spent a whole month washing and pressing fabric. I am very close to being finished now. But, I love the whole different smell of my room. I wish I had done this as I went along.
RedGarnet222 is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 03:55 PM
  #39  
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Horicon WI
Posts: 72
Default

I also use color catchers but I wash my fabrics with the family laundry. If I don't have a full load I add a couple of pieces of fabric. thanks for metioning not ironing until ready to use that will save me some time. Also how do you wash large pieces with out having a tackled mess
SewSewGal is offline  
Old 08-26-2010, 11:59 PM
  #40  
Super Member
 
GailG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 6,764
Default

Originally Posted by SewSewGal
I also use color catchers but I wash my fabrics with the family laundry. If I don't have a full load I add a couple of pieces of fabric. thanks for metioning not ironing until ready to use that will save me some time. Also how do you wash large pieces with out having a tackled mess
That has been my dilemma. I like to keep the fabric in one piece so that I can cut the length for borders and bindings.

BHW, I like the idea of adding fabric to the laundry.
GailG is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
IrishNY
Main
20
07-21-2019 03:43 PM
Juzsayin
Main
12
05-01-2013 05:37 AM
bearisgray
Main
22
09-14-2012 02:26 PM
Nanamoms
Main
78
10-21-2011 07:30 PM
grammy17
Main
7
01-15-2011 08:40 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



FREE Quilting Newsletter