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stitchofclass2 12-11-2010 07:12 AM

Oh, my gosh. I loved this video. Thank you for sharing.

roda 12-11-2010 07:28 AM

can you work the waves to the corner and redo them maybe your miters or off a little

Jeanniejo 12-11-2010 07:45 AM

I love the quilt !!!

CompulsiveQuilter 12-11-2010 08:24 AM

Looks flat enough for me! Who wants "perfect" in a handmade quilt??? Relax and use it or give it lovingly

Lori S 12-11-2010 08:33 AM

Wavy borders can happen in the mitering , or another much more common way is when using cross grain , rather than lenght of fabric to make the border , it stretches when you are sewing . A few ways to solve is to starch , to help keep fabric from stretching( but do be careful when handling as to not over handle) . If you measure each side , and cut to that lenght , and pin the entire border so to be sure it is exact this can help. The stretch that occurs in cross grain can be almost unnoticable when working with small units in a block , that with the final block squaring makes the quilter sometimes unaware of what really caused the distortion.
It can be tough to make a border lay flat with cross grain ( becuase there is more stretch in cross grain). The problem seems to get more magnified with the wider the border gets. In an effort to "force it into flatness" it is tempting to steam the heck out of it and repeat ironings , this can often make it worse. Steam can be effective in reducing the stretch that has already occured , but needs to be combined with blocking to really be effective.
I had made a few quilts with multiple borders and those that were cut cross the width of fabric never seems to lay flat against the ones that where lenght of fabric. The lesson learned was to never mix the two in my borders. Batiks ( most) seem to have much less stretch on the cross grain, and I have the least amount of issues in wide borders with batiks using the cross grain.
You can take up the wave in the miter seam, but do pin first the excess at the seam to be sure this will be a satisfactory cure.
Sorry for you problem , DO NOT GIVE UP!

fred singer 12-11-2010 08:43 AM

I think that it looks great :thumbup: great colors nd theme.Looks nice cozy.

Pigzrule219 12-11-2010 09:38 AM

Your quilt is beautiful! We are our own worst critics. Don't give up quilting because you don't think it is perfect. It looks great!!!

marcias 12-11-2010 11:08 AM

just for a quilt or two, you could put the binding on w/o a border. We don't have to have borders. ;)

btiny36 12-11-2010 11:26 AM

First off your quilt is beautiful, secondly no no quiting quilting...I'm no expert and quite new myself...Currently I have a quilt loaded on my longarm and one waiting...so I thought get the back ready for the second quilt and it will be ready to go...hummmmmmm yeppers on my second quilt, I have the wave going on...How can this be I was sooooo careful, well apparently not :oops: So I smoothed out the quilt as best as I could on the rug, started at top border pinned the first corner down continued to the other corner...laid flat...same with bottom one...on to the side borders...hummmmm yeppers they aren't laying flat noppers...so off they came. I remeasured and I was out...fixed it...found the middle of my quilt sides, border sided and matched...then pinned all the through the side borders...lots of pins...back on the floor it went, does it lay completely flat...well not perfectly but I will be able to quilt it without any puckers.. If you really aren't happy, do like I do, and just take the borders off and remeasure....

joeyoz 12-11-2010 11:35 AM

Do you cut your borders to fit or do you sew on, then cut?

jlong 12-11-2010 12:21 PM

I have followed this advise and have had success.
http://www.quiltville.com/borderhints.shtml

tinliz 12-11-2010 12:43 PM

Didn’t read all the threads, but second the suggestion that you measure the middle and both sides. I would also check to see if anything is going on with the pieced boarder. On my avatar I had to adjust the pieced section of boarder to get the size right. Lost a few points, but gained a straight boarder. It is obvious that you have many hours in your quilt. Take the extra time to get the boarders so you like them. It looks like you have more fabric than will quilt out easily. Just don't give up on quilting.

amorerm 12-11-2010 12:52 PM

You have to be really careful with the Bias. If there is stretch, it's important to pin the border making sure not to stretch the fabric and sew leaving the needle until you reach it on the machine. Slow and easy. It's also important that you PRESS (just setting the iron on the seam with fabric right-side up) don't iron it moving the iron. Then turn over to wrong side of fabric and press the seam again. Work out to the edge. DO NOT go back and forth running the iron parallel to the seam. Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Candace
Are you stretching the fabric as you're sewing? I would use a cotton batting and when you quilt it and shrink it up, I think you'll like it better.


purplefiend 12-11-2010 12:54 PM

Usually if the borders are wavy, it means you have too much fabric in the borders. I would take them off and remeasure and sew them on again.

btiny36 12-11-2010 01:27 PM

What I do, is bring both my sides of the quilt together...then measure the lenght of each side and on the fold end I would measure...generally, if the two side borders are so closely matched in measurement I will use that (Left border 68 3/4", right border 68 3/4 and a little bit, folded edge 68 1/2" (which would be the center of the quilt)I would use the 68 3/4 in...mark the center of the border strip and middle of quilt...match the center marks up and pin, then gentle flatten out my border strip one way to corner and pin...if there is a little over hang, I leave it until I have the border completely pinned on...then if you trim off the border strip, make sure you trim it at a true 90 degree angle...hope this helps...

Harmony 12-11-2010 01:43 PM

Been there, done that! If you find a foolproof answer, let me know! I think your quilt is beautiful!

Matilda 12-11-2010 04:21 PM

Your quilt is beautiful Cory. I have had wavy borders to. I don't know why that happens. I haven't figured it out yet. I think the part the borders are attached to must get stretched is the only think I can think of.

irma tapia 12-11-2010 04:43 PM

It's a beautiful quilt!!!! I think the ripples will come out in the quilting and streaching. I had a border that did that and when I did the FM quilting it was fine.

Gina_D 12-11-2010 04:56 PM

Mitered corners created a wave in one of my quilts. I ended up taking the edges off & redoing it, for about the 3rd time. Very annoying. It was still a bit wavy afterwards, but I ended up putting wavy quilting lines in it (serpentine) to 'disguise' it & you can't tell anymore.

Drew 12-11-2010 05:18 PM

I think if it was correct before the borders it has to be the miter. Perhaps you can make corner blocks of the dark color to finish the borders.

milikaa1 12-11-2010 05:30 PM

Looks good from here. I think it is a fine quilt.

quilterfly 12-11-2010 06:53 PM

I don't know about the borders, but I love the song! You can quilt that out!

jitkaau 12-11-2010 07:29 PM

If you have measured across the centre of the quilt in both directions to get the measurement, and then is still hasn't eased in to sit flatly, I think I would make a judgement as to whether the quilting could flatten it. If not, I would 'fudge it a bit by easing in all of the seams along that section and don't trim anything until it is flat.Most frustrating when the measurement might only be out one sixteenth of an inch. Good luck with the fixing, as it is a nice , dramatic quilt.

Amanda from South Texas 12-11-2010 07:42 PM

We are our own worst critics. No one else will notice it.

galvestonangel 12-11-2010 08:24 PM

Go to You Tube and watch Sharon Schambers tut on wavy blocks. She shows how to fix them. I used it on a wavy border I had and it worked. I don't think mine had mitered corners.

MaryAnna 12-11-2010 08:33 PM

Candace,
Thanks for the link...too cute, great song! Made me smile!
Blessings,
MaryAnna


Originally Posted by Candace
Oh shoot. Here, this will make you realize it takes a while to get really good. Practice, practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzoL7ddTEnA


glorybound 12-11-2010 08:49 PM

Maybe it's the fabric you used in the border. I recently used the exact same fabric to make a crib size quilt - whole cloth. Discovered the lines on the fabric aren't perfectly square. If that's what you used to square the fabric when you cut it for the border, that may be how you ended up with waves. Don't be discouraged, it's all part of the learning curve

Ileen 12-11-2010 08:58 PM

Beautiful Quilt!!!!

Kappy 12-11-2010 10:07 PM

First and foremost your quilt is beautiful. I think maybe you are just a little "to close" to it at the moment! It is very frustrating when we do "everything right" and something still goes wrong. I also know that personally if I don't atleast try to fix it, I am never happy with it, and that is way to nice a quilt not to be happy with! Did you piece the 2nd border or is that the fabric, if you pieced it maybe you could just adjust the seams...but I have also known the LQS quilters who have been able to "quilt it out", so before you throw the baby out with the bath water as my Mother use to say, maybe you should ask them and get their opinion. They would know what they can do. Your quilt is beautiful and you did a lot of work. DON'T GIVE UP. :thumbup:

Cuddly Quilter 12-12-2010 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by Candace
Oh shoot. Here, this will make you realize it takes a while to get really good. Practice, practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzoL7ddTEnA

Candice i have shared with my quilting buddies on facebook. It has put me into stitches and makes me more aware of how wonderful OUR LONG ARM QUILTERS are. It has put me off buying one..... :-o

Corry 12-12-2010 06:54 AM

There are so many comments that have been made that I wanted to respond to...lol This has really been a lwearning process for me. Thank you so much to all of you for taking the time to encourage me and help me. It is no wonder that my borders are wavy cause from all the comments I have learned about a dozen reasons that are most likely contributing to be the case here. I feel much better about it though. I have already took the bottom border off. I am most likely going to do away with that mitered border and add a block on each corner. It is funny because to begin with I had seen a quilt that they had a black bear claw coming out from the corner facing the center of the quilt. I thought it would look cool with the jagged black border I already have going on here but then at the end decided to just go with the mitered corner cause I wanted to get it done. Well I am going to go ahead and do that bear claw in the corners and do away with the mitered border and see how that works out. There are alot of other things I am going to look at in the process as the mitering is not my only problem. The way this fabric is printed I did have to cut the border fabric across the grain so I could have the horses running along the sides of the quilt. I most definately have probably stretched it. Is it possible to salvage this fabric and take it off, repin and sew it on again and still get my border right or do I need to buy more fabric? Boy have I learned a heap of wisdom from this group...now to apply it. I can't thank ya'll enough. Corry

ajohn52 12-12-2010 07:30 AM

I would not miter the corners. Use the measure in 3 places and take the average measurement and make your borders that length. Also if you cut your borders on the straight grain it won't pull as much. I'd take the borders off and do it over otherwise you will never be happy with it.

reach for the stars 2 12-12-2010 07:42 AM

It's very pretty. Just seam rip that border just past that spot. Lay out and see where extra fabric is. Adjust and resew seam and miter. Might work

Corry 12-12-2010 07:45 AM

Should I reuse the same border pieces or cut new ones? I can't cut the fabric with the length as the design doesn't go that way.

dunster 12-12-2010 07:56 AM

You can definitely use the same border pieces. First use starch and press them being sure they are absolutely flat. I think you are right in taking off the border and re-doing. It's always easier to fix a problem at the stage it occurred than to try to take care of it somewhere along the line. (Learned that the hard way, several times.)

Annz 12-12-2010 09:56 AM

I think it looks great.. Anyhow when horses trot in the water waves are formed. I would just say you intentionally give it a realistic look. That's my story and I would stick to it.

hheelleenn 12-12-2010 10:52 AM

I did want to tell you what I do. When using multiple borders, I do not miter every one but every other one. I have better success at that. See my last quilt under "pictures- My best quilt yet.

cuppi duke 12-12-2010 02:08 PM

I have found if I press after I sew the borders on they stretch and get wavy. I no longer press the borders.

chali1092 12-12-2010 02:48 PM

Hi, I am not a veteran quilter but have sewn for over 47 years. One thing I have learned that applies to anything sewn is--the bias of material. If you have cut your borders where the bias is along the edge, it is going to stretch when sewn, just the nature of the critter, lol. Take each side and top and bottom of border and gently pull on them to see if they stretch. Chances are the top and bottom are the stretchiest ones, remove them and cut new ones making sure they are not cut on the bias. Some fabrics stretch more across grain then with the grain. Use the one that stretches the least and when sewing, try not to pull, in fact use of more pins to hold it would be the best way to make sure you don't stretch it out. Hope this helps. It is an absolutely beautiful quilt and deserves the attention to finish it up.

Kappy 12-12-2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by dunster
You can definitely use the same border pieces. First use starch and press them being sure they are absolutely flat. I think you are right in taking off the border and re-doing. It's always easier to fix a problem at the stage it occurred than to try to take care of it somewhere along the line. (Learned that the hard way, several times.)

I agree, you should be able to use the same fabric. I think your idea of a corner bear claw square would look good. Don't worry, it will all come out OK and you will love it!


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