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    kallie, what a beautiful machine! The decals and the face plate are just wonderful! I hope you can find out the things you want to about her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janis View Post
    kallie, what a beautiful machine! The decals and the face plate are just wonderful! I hope you can find out the things you want to about her.
    Thanks Janis
    She definitely is a beauty! I hope I can find out some more about her too! 2 people now have mentioned that the Comrie family are the ones who own The Brick here in Canada and that their son is in the NHL. If I could just get ahold of the Comrie Sewing Machine Store that is listed in Edmonton that would hopefully help clear up some questions. But alas everytime I phone I get a "busy/disconnected" type signal. The phone doesn't even ring. Just beeps at me.

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    Here is a 15 Clone that I have the option to purchase. Tried to find info online about her but I just read that there is not a lot of info about them on~line. Its a make offer sale and I am thinking $25 maybe $15. I have notice people are not paying much of these beauties because they are not rare.Name:  65427_2794230983005_1475345601_32050005_236275985_n.jpg
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    Miriam, Joe or anyone else, is there any thing foot pedals need besides the obvious. The Universal wants to sew, but it slows down and I stop trying. The motor was checked when it was rewired - though he didn't have the other electrics, just the motor, but I'm sure he had a way to check it. The cords are original, but look good. I got the cover off the foot petal (it took a pair of pliers and a hammer) and all the wiring looks intact, just dusty. I vacuumed it and put it back together. Is there anything else I could have done while I was there? I don't know anything about all those contacts and the thing that moves across them. I put the belt from the Admiral on it. It stil seems a little tight. I am waiting on a new one from sew-classic before I buy a new foot pedal. One thing at a time, but do the insides of the pedal need any servicing I can do? My son will be here Saturday. What should he check for?

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    This was fun to look at, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    Miriam, Joe or anyone else, is there any thing foot pedals need besides the obvious. The Universal wants to sew, but it slows down and I stop trying. The motor was checked when it was rewired - though he didn't have the other electrics, just the motor, but I'm sure he had a way to check it. The cords are original, but look good. I got the cover off the foot petal (it took a pair of pliers and a hammer) and all the wiring looks intact, just dusty. I vacuumed it and put it back together. Is there anything else I could have done while I was there? I don't know anything about all those contacts and the thing that moves across them. I put the belt from the Admiral on it. It stil seems a little tight. I am waiting on a new one from sew-classic before I buy a new foot pedal. One thing at a time, but do the insides of the pedal need any servicing I can do? My son will be here Saturday. What should he check for?
    My DH is really good with the electric so I turn it over to him. I have seen him sand or polish pits or tits off a the contacts.
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    irishrose,

    Some of the foot controllers have contact points. If they get dirty, corroded or burnt it will effect the way the machine runs. I've fixed a couple just by cleaning them.
    One of the other styles has a carbon pile in it with some adjustable contacts. I've never had any cause to work on them. Just cleaned them out and occasionally rewired them.

    If the machine starts running then slows down, I'd be looking at the motor first. If you have another one to try I'd do that.

    My Mr Crinkle's busted motor that I glued back together ran OK but was loud and rasty sounding. Then it started slowing down. I couldn't find anything wrong inside but there must be.

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    Here is a little 15 clone I picked up yesterday for $5. I think the thrift store that had it just wanted it gone! A little Electra Deluxe - case and all. No attachments and I haven't tried using her yet!NancyName:  Electra delux.JPG
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    Okay, back to look at the foot controller more carefully. I can also try the motor from the Admiral. Thank you. Judy

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    Nancy,

    That Electra is nice. Nothing out of the ordinary about it other than it doesn't appear to have been used excessively or abused. Needs a spool pin, no big deal, and someone to love her.

    ELECTRA ................. The last good car I had was a 69 Buick ELECTRA 225.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Nancy,

    That Electra is nice. Nothing out of the ordinary about it other than it doesn't appear to have been used excessively or abused. Needs a spool pin, no big deal, and someone to love her.

    ELECTRA ................. The last good car I had was a 69 Buick ELECTRA 225.


    Joe
    Well, the only thing so far out of the ordinary is that - I can not get the needle bar to move! I cleaned and oiled her, a few times - no go. That needle bar is stuck solid! No wonder they just wanted me to take that machine for $5! I have never had a machine so stuck before! I was always able to unstick even the rusted ones. This machine has no rust - had a lot of dirt, lint, but she won't budge! I took the wheel off too just checking, and pulled the bobbin casing - no go - the handwheel will not turn the needle bar!

    Nancy

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    Have you pulled the faceplate yet Nancy?

    How is Mowgli?
    One day, you'll only be a memory for some people. Do your best to be a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Well, the only thing so far out of the ordinary is that - I can not get the needle bar to move! I cleaned and oiled her, a few times - no go. That needle bar is stuck solid! No wonder they just wanted me to take that machine for $5! I have never had a machine so stuck before! I was always able to unstick even the rusted ones. This machine has no rust - had a lot of dirt, lint, but she won't budge! I took the wheel off too just checking, and pulled the bobbin casing - no go - the handwheel will not turn the needle bar!

    Nancy
    Nancy,
    Janie Doe the 15 clone was stuck too. Here is a link http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...r-t169127.html - maybe something in there will be of interest on getting her unstuck. Janie was stuck and wouldn't move her needle bar. We could have used a bit of heat but didn't have to. My sister lives in AZ so she puts the machine in the sun and lets the sun heat it a bit - sure enough they turn. It is best though if you can get all the dried up oil and gunk out of there. We will need to re-do Janie some time because all we did was squirt some Tri-flow on her moving parts. Hannah was pregnant at the time so we didn't want to get into anything chemical. I added some comments at the end of Janie's thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    Have you pulled the faceplate yet Nancy?

    How is Mowgli?
    Sure Charlee, I pulled the face place, bobbin case and race, hand wheel, everything I could get off safely. That machine will not budge. I soaked it with sewing machine oil yesterday, all night, and again today. I can get a tiny bit of movement now, but it is still frozen solid!

    Mowgli, is hanging in there. He cries when I leave him alone so I have to stay with him or move his bed if I come in here to the office. He had a large chunk of his femur removed - the head and neck of the femur. His body will form a 'false' socket and in about a month or 2, he will be able to run and play.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by deplaylady View Post
    Here is a picture of Gretel, my Singer 15-30 from 1915 with it's Tiffany (Gingerbread) Decals and of my newest, which looks like a 15 clone to me. It's a White Model 65 but it is also labeled J-A15 near the serial number. When I called about the date I was told it was made somewhere between 1958 and 1960. I saw it just 2 days ago and loved the blue and white - it sews really quiet and nice. (Gretel does too!) No name yet for the new machine.

    WOW - your Gretel is just beautiful - love all the gold paint - Gingerbread on it. Beautiful machine

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    give that machine some heat.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    give that machine some heat.
    Ok, today we will try the blow dryer! Yesterday, DH played with the Electra for a long time. He did everything I had already done with a little force and got her to move ever so slightly - so I am thinking maybe today we will get the needle bar to move!

    Nancy

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    Nancy,

    Here is a trick I've used on a couple machines that were really badly gummed up. Use Hoppe's #9 gun cleaning solvent.
    It's mostly kerosene with some additional ingredients. It works very well for cleaning the yellow brown oil and nicotine off of the chrome parts. And limited contact won't hurt ..... as least it hasn't hurt any of mine .... the paint or decals.

    I use it mostly to removed the old oil from the presser foot and needle bar.

    Joe

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    When they are stuck like that it is usually dried up oil. Some times heat works some times a solvent.... Protect the paint while you are cleaning for sure.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    When they are stuck like that it is usually dried up oil. Some times heat works some times a solvent.... Protect the paint while you are cleaning for sure.
    Well Miriam and Joe, I didn't have to use anything but sewing machine oil to un-stick the Electra. I soaked her with sewing machine oil for 4 days. I kept trying to turn her wheel with no luck until last night. Last night I got the wheel to make a half turn. Today when I tried, I did a whole very slow and stiff turn. I oiled again, set her in the sun and tonight she is fully funtional! I haven't threaded her yet to see if she sews, but I have no reason to think she wouldn't sew! It amazes me how stuck that machine was from just neglect. No rust. Just dried up oil, or probably no oil was ever applied to her!

    Nanchy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Well Miriam and Joe, I didn't have to use anything but sewing machine oil to un-stick the Electra. I soaked her with sewing machine oil for 4 days. I kept trying to turn her wheel with no luck until last night. Last night I got the wheel to make a half turn. Today when I tried, I did a whole very slow and stiff turn. I oiled again, set her in the sun and tonight she is fully funtional! I haven't threaded her yet to see if she sews, but I have no reason to think she wouldn't sew! It amazes me how stuck that machine was from just neglect. No rust. Just dried up oil, or probably no oil was ever applied to her!

    Nanchy
    Yup it doesn't take much to get them moving does it? The dried up oil can dissolve and there she goes! I bet the sunbath didn't hurt one little bit. I did that with a Bernina. Put it in the car for a while on a hot day. It moved nice and free until it got cold. At least I knew it would move. Then I kept at the oil - you want to wipe off excess oil... just keep it in the joints. Some times it helps to turn the machine different directions so the oil will flow into those joints.
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    Nancy,

    Glad you got it freed up. When I brought my Franklin home it wouldn't hardly move. It took a lot of effort for little result. I hosed it with Liquid Wrench and in a little while she was spinning freely. Now with oil and cleaning she sews soooo easy. Which is good, cos Mrs. Franklin is a treadle machine.

    Joe

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    I have a Commander that has some bare wires coming from the motor, would those be very hard to redo? Otherwise, he's in great shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grannysewer View Post
    I have a Commander that has some bare wires coming from the motor, would those be very hard to redo? Otherwise, he's in great shape.
    Just get a different motor and wires - there is a screw that holds the motor on - unscrew it and put the new one on and adjust your belt.
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    Can the motor be rewired?

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