New to vintage machines
 

I've always hankered after a vintage machine. This week I took the plunge and bought two. I have a friend who served his time at the Singer plant at Clydebank who is going to service and replace any bits to make them pristine. He won't touch the cabinets, both of which have their respective keys. They also have various bits and pieces inside the cabinet and their[ATTACH=CONFIG]527880[/ATTACH] instruction booklets. [ATTACH=CONFIG]527879[/ATTACH]
One is a 127 1910 model, the other a 28K three quarter sized 1902 build. Both machines have come from the same family. The new one belonged to the Grandfather, a former paratrooper and gamekeeper. The older one belonged to his son (so must've been second hand to him) which he bought for repairing his jeans. I was quite amused that they had both been 'mannies' machines.
I can't wait to try thrm both out.

They both look like 28/128 machines to me. The 27 and 127 are full size versions of the 28 and 128 machines. Either way they're both in great looking shape.
Welcome to the vintage machine slope. ;)
Rodney

Welcome!! Two great looking machines.

I wouldntve known what they were so checked their ismac numbers. The one without case in the pic is definitely a 127. Though it would be rather nice to have a 128 with a 127 serial number in it. I could retire and sit on my millions :D

Both have low bobbin winders which generally means 27 or 28. I'm with Joe, both look like 28s to me too. Model 27s with a handcrank (27-4) are extremely rare because they weigh so much. Measure the bases: That will tell you for sure if it's full size or not. 27s are 14 5/8" wide, 28s are 12 5/32" wide. 27s have a mass of 27 pounds (coincidentally) and 28s are quite a bit lighter.

Just saw you mention cabinets. Do you have photos?

Nice way to start your collection - welcome sheilz!

Nice machines. Swing that lock-down peg out of the way so the second machine can sit in its case properly. :)

I'm 100% sure you do not have a 127 - either you are misreading the number on the machine, or the chart is wrong.

BTW - Singer started producing the 127 around 1912-1913 (based on earliest manual I've seen).

Both are 28's. If you put them side by side, you will see they are the same size. The 27/127 is quite a bit larger.

But it's also very easy to tell by the way the tension sits on the head of the machine

This is a 27 - notice the amount of cast that is visible below the tension. The 127 (updated version of the 27) but has the high bobbin winder.



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You're off to a great start. Beautiful machines!

Nice start to a collection. They are bueatiful machines. Enjoy them.