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QuiltingHaven 10-26-2017 08:25 AM

Licensed Fabric and Design Quilts that I make.
 
Okay, I have been creating quilts (now for 7 years) and was asked at the "Cottage Treasures" Quilt Store in Berlin, Ohio to bring some quilts in to see if they could sell them. No, problems with the ones that I have bought in and they are selling. Now, I am sure you all are much smarter in this area than me. If I purchased licensed "Ohio State" fabric from let's say, JoAnn Fabric, would I have problems selling the quilts with the "Licensed" Fabric (I pay for the fabric from JoAnn's) which says that it is Licensed at the store? I have been making Scarlet and Grey quilts using regular greys/reds/black, etc. However, I don't want to have pay more for the fabric (license to Ohio State or go go jail :-( for using the fabric that have all the Buckeyes and football players, etc. to make quilts to sell. Any help would be helpful, thank you everyone.

dunster 10-26-2017 10:22 AM

Let me preface this by saying I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. Technically, my understanding is that you are free to sell those quilts made with licensed fabric, as long as you don't claim that they are legitimate Buckeye-approved items. But in reality, if someone from the Buckeyes wants to make trouble for you, it can wind up costing you a lot of money just to prove you have that right.

cathyvv 10-26-2017 10:39 AM

While I won't pretend to know anything about licensing fabrics for sale and the ramifications of that to a company or an entity like Ohio State, common sense tells me that the fabric was sold to Make stuff with, and that some people who make stuff with it will sell the stuff. Unless you are manufacturing great quantities of the quilts, It doesn't seem like you would have to worry about licensing fees.

Am I making too much sense?

anne2016 10-26-2017 11:57 AM

I agree. It makes sense to me.

Originally Posted by cathyvv (Post 7932370)
While I won't pretend to know anything about licensing fabrics for sale and the ramifications of that to a company or an entity like Ohio State, common sense tells me that the fabric was sold to Make stuff with, and that some people who make stuff with it will sell the stuff. Unless you are manufacturing great quantities of the quilts, It doesn't seem like you would have to worry about licensing fees.

Am I making too much sense?


dunster 10-26-2017 03:32 PM

Yes it makes sense, and is legal - but sports teams and Disney have a reputation for taking people to court anyway. And their pockets are deeper than mine, probably deeper than yours.

JustAbitCrazy 10-27-2017 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by dunster (Post 7932509)
Yes it makes sense, and is legal - but sports teams and Disney have a reputation for taking people to court anyway. And their pockets are deeper than mine, probably deeper than yours.

What she said. I wouldn't be afraid to make something and sell person to person, directly to an individual who wanted it, but I would not put items like that on sale publicly. I think that's asking for trouble, and there's always some manipulative person wandering by that likes to stir the pot and set someone else in motion to make the fuss in their place.

kat13 10-27-2017 06:12 AM

Maybe you could have them at the quilt store but if someone wants one, the store could refer them to you? I would think that if the owner of the store is willing to sell them... It would be ok..

donna13350 10-27-2017 07:04 AM

I would email the Buckeye corporation, and flat out ask them. That way, you will have an answer in writing, if it ever comes to that.
Generally speaking, though...if you plan to do this, then you are "in business"...get real legal advice.

bkay 10-27-2017 07:13 AM

I'm not a lawyer either. However, it seems clear that when push comes to shove, that the licensee has no control or say-so what you do with the fabric once you buy it. Everything I've read says anything past "1st sale" is not covered by a copyright. I've read anecdotal things online that indicate some smaller "copyright" holders will threaten to sue you (I'm talking individual quilt designers, etc.) for selling a quilt made from their pattern. That's not likely, as hiring a lawyer to do the suing is not cheap. Threatening to sue is cheap, however. Having a lawyer write a letter is cheap also.

The NFL keeps a staff of attorneys to enforce their copyrights and licenses. So aggravating you is cheap for them. You'd have to make a lot of quilts to get their attention, though. You'd probably have to imply or say that your quilt itself is licensed to get their attention even then. I wouldn't think that making a few Ohio State quilts would draw anyone's attention. Nor would they care as long as you don't imply that you are an "authorized quilter" for Ohio State.

bkay

klswift 10-27-2017 08:10 AM

Unless you are going into mass production or you are trying to sell them on campus and undercut the campus store, I do not think anyone will say anything. Joanns has paid the fees for the licensed fabric. You purchased the fabric and can make whatever you want out of it. Where a problem could arise is if you promoted them labeled them as official Ohio State merchandise. And, even if that happened (you have a huge sign saying 'OFFICIAL OHIO STATE MERCHANDISE FOR SALE') and it was reported, they simply confiscate the merchandise and order you to stop making them.


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