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bearisgray 09-07-2019 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Sandygirl (Post 8298748)
Remember “ one size fits all” clothing labels?

Now they read “one size fits most”.

I remember those labels -

SusieQOH 09-10-2019 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 8296758)
I am an avid label reader and have learned what most of the tricks are. I stick to as few ingredient as possible on the label. I won't buy grown in Mexico food or pet food manufactured in China.

My DD had a college friend that was vegan and gluten free and all her food had to be organic and nothing with a face being a part of it. I thought she was recovering from an illness when I first met her. She didn't know that organic growers at the farmer's market used animal manure as fertilizer. She tried to get others to protest that and make a scene over it. My DD distanced herself from her and I was curious to what the sad girl ever found to eat

That's about the craziest thing I've heard! Animal manure is very "natural"- nothing my 2 vegetarian sons would object to! And they know a lot about it. They are two of the healthiest people I know. It's been so long since they've eaten meat that I can't even remember when they started being vegetarian.

ptquilts 09-10-2019 05:13 AM

yes, but if plants are fertilized with manure from animals that ate non-organic feed, is the manure (and plants) still organic?

Iceblossom 09-10-2019 06:47 AM

We each have reasons (or not) on why we do things. My son is vegan and has cut out honey because it is made by bees -- well, so is almost every piece of fruit you eat as well as many vegetables are pollinated by bees. Even having been a vegetarian myself I never understood the bee thing, but I know it is a thing.

There are (of course!) standards on what makes things organic. It is my understanding that non-processed/composted manure is considered organic if there are no additives and that it does not matter what the feed or antibiotics that the animal is treated with, only what the manure is treated with after it is produced. It's one of those areas that causes concerns because things like sewage sludge waste products (which have been sterilized) can be used despite mineral and other contamination.

Today is Farmer's Market day. I'll chat with a couple of the vendors. I know we have organic, regular, and "transitional" farms represented. Transitional is the period they have to go through before they can be certified as organic even if they have grown the crops organically on fresh ground.

Jennifer23 09-15-2019 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Shoofly1 (Post 8296586)
Labels are an interesting conversation. Here is something you never see on labels and it's pretty scary: https://www.biosludge.news/

I read through a few articles there; that site contains a *lot* of misinformation. There is also some good, accurate information, but I hate it when sites treat science and conspiracy as being equal.


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