Thats one thing I will not do is the yahoo groups. nothing but bad experiences there. Shame there is not like a Consumer Reports for sewing machines or long Arms
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I wont do the yahoogroups either, I was so badly verbally assaulted in the cat world they crusified me and black listed me to the world because I export some of my kittens overseas they even put my home address and phone number up for the world to see, I ended up talking to my local politician and he threatened them but it didn't make any difference, It was ok for them to have a go at me but when I retaliated verbaly I was again crusified, so I don't go there anymore. it isn't worth the effort