I did one in a forum & she let us know in advance, it would be a star design, & wall hanging size, so it was fine. Did one with a different group & did not like the layout when done, so I changed it, but still not wild about it. I mostly save the steps now, & see the finished design, then decide if I ever want to do it, or not. Most the time, it's not, lol... I would rather know what I am doing ahead of time...