Riversong, thanks so much for your help. My 3d pinwheel is waiting for quilting then I went out today and got the fabric I needed for a warm wishes quilt and now I can do a table topper for christmas - my friends always want me to make them a quilt for Christmas and I believe this will be just an nice and a pleasant surprise... Thanks again for all your help and keep up the good work. We all love your work...gb