Thanks to all of you for your suggestions....I'm keeping all of them on case I have trouble again. Right now I'm back in the quilting business! woo hoo!! My backing was rolling as it should. I was too upset at the time to realize it. Duh! The 16 needle did the trick! That's again..you saved my sanity and the life of whoever was walking outside my window when threw the machine out! And I was gettin' real close. Lol