This is the 3rd year in a row for me for Black Friday. It is all in the attitude. My daughter and I look forward to it as an adventure not a sale shopping day. For the last two years my sister home visiting has gone with us and it is the only time we can visit as we must travel 100 miles for shopping. We then meet a friend of my for lunch. As far as Joanns, yes I was there and it was a mad house. However, I just got off the web site, had some great bargins and free shipping to boot. Check it out.