According to the weatherman we are not to expect any winter weather till after the middle of January. They then asked the question of how much snow Buffalo NY has had this year. Answer was 3 inches. They should of already had 30. Well in Missouri we have had a trace. they are still waiting for the winner of the first inch guess. I guess we will get some snow, but when is the guess. We did have a strange spring, summer and fall, so we will wait for winter. Enjoy.