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I think it's always a fine line comparing what we would accept for ourselves versus what someone with nothing would accept, but then again it's not very gracious to ask someone with nothing to accept what we ourselves find unacceptable. I think the lady in charge is not being very gracious, despite her no-doubt good intent...[/QUOTE] I too would find it hard to belong to a group withthe attitude in church ministry. If it is not good enough for us why should it be good enough for some poor soul through no fault of their own to use? There is a saying and it goes like this "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." and maybe this leader should get a gift of this type that she wants the poor to receive and see how she would feel about it and give it to her publicly so that she can see what others might have to say. That is just me, but I think that is what I would do.