Originally Posted by
nabobw
I do not think a deigner se goes for 10,000 the diamond was not even that much.
This is just what I was thinking. The brand new Ruby Deluxe is only around 6500. If I was going to pay that much or anywheres close I'd go with the Diamond Deluxe; it has the largest hoops plus lots of extras, I'd at least get the Diamond or the Ruby. All of these machines are so much far above the Designer SE. There's no way I'd spend even 5000 on it. With a trade in you should be able to get it even cheaper. You didn't say where you were getting it from but I'd suggest going thru a quilt store for the warranty, (even offered on used models) and the classes and support. These three things should be at the top of your list. That and a store that has great support; not all do.