hobbykat1955; great work, I got a Viking Ruby last yr and then in May I got the 5D pro because of all that it could do, the portraits, cutwork (love this) and many other things. I just got the Stitch Editor Plus (new upgrade) and love how much easier and better it adds the trim commands to designs with lots of jump stitches, I also use it to get rid of all unneeded stitches. I haven't tried the portrait part yet so I'm hoping its not that hard to learn. I'll probably take the classes from mypatience before I start; this is a great website for 4D and 5D. My teacher at the LQS loves his books