Thanks everyone for all the great responses!! I would love to have one as old as possible. I can feel the difference from the old to the new. I am just not that familiar with all the different machines yet. I love my singers. I did get to look up the Necchi last night and it looks like an awesome machine. Does anyone know when the first zig zag machines first come out?? I tried searching internet last night but didn't find good info. I will keep researching!! I have a singer with some cams in it for zigzag stitching but I am not crazy about it and I also think it is too new. Thanks again!