*waves* I'm back, so i took time out today to poke around on the Kenmore. I finally figured out how to get some of the stitches to work. It involved moving the stitch modifier to S. I still don't know the model number because the previous owner made a wooden base for the machine that they then glued to the machine. I can see where the plate is just not how to get it without pulling off the base. *sighs* But on the plus side I have cams that can do fish shapes, tree shapes, swan shapes and also duck shapes. LOL