the stick that you put in the back of the tv does not work at all tried on two of my tv' my daughters and a friend who lives a few mile away it went in the trash.I also had the flat one that you can stick in the window real bad reception. I have a converter box and bought an antenna thats good for 60 miles I get the regular 2 5 7 9 plus a bunch of others with mostly the old shows and movies which is great cause i have them in the bedrooms. my daughteer has the apartment up stairs and pays for the cable and ther is nothing on day or night a real waste of money.