not sure what you mean by birthing it. personally all my quilts are on a frame - but we don't do that at church. the batting is laid out on the table, then the bottom is put on that and the top layer on that one. they are sewed around, leaving an opening for turning. when we get to stitching the last side, are finding that the batting is bigger or longer than the top and bottom. and we have to rip it out. i was not involved when they used the warm and natural but i did suggest the 80/20 as i use that (but a different brand) in my quilts. it is so much cheaper and we have no budget. some members of the group think the batting is stretching. i am not sure if it is the batting or the workmanship. any suggestions?