I am strongly thinking of upgrading my current machine but every time I go into the dealer they either claim they cannot find the price list or flash the rate sheet with every machine at me for 30 seconds. I think I know how much it costs, with or without a trade in, but who knows. The same store used to post the price list on the wall by the machines, which was perfect, so I don't know what changed. I get the feeling since I do not go to their classes (I do not sew clothes) that they're really not that interested in me as a customer. But they're my only choice for ~100 miles or so, for the brand I've used forever. So I guess I'm stuck with them and they're stuck with me...