Oh my goodness! You have given me such great information. I will check out all the machines you mentioned. I wish there was a quilt show I could go to at this time to try these machines, but of course due to Covid, there is not. I'll also keep my eye out for someone wanting to sell a good used one. I guess first option at this time is probably ebay. But, I'm a little nervous about buying a machine unseen from ebay. Do you have suggestions of other resources for a good used machine?