I had remember hearing about these pads.. but had never explored them. I did order the quilting ring as a dear friend mentioned it. I had tried very briefly and kinda liked it for quilting in small free motion areas. I think I need to work with it a little more, but I really want to reach a point that I can do simple quilting and bring out the quilt that I had pworked so hard on. I do have a lady that is rather inexpensive compared to many and on very special quilts I will pay her to long arm quilt them. There is also a fantastic fabric shop within 13 miles of where I am and I am hoping to take long arm lessons. My problem is due to my disability, I cannot stand for long periods of time. So I would have to schedule using the machine when it's a smaller quilt that I want to do.