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    Old 06-29-2011, 05:12 AM
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    Just wondering if you could use retayne on new clothing, for example black cotton clothes that seem to fade quickly. I think there is/was a detergent just for dark clothes to help prevent fading. I remember a commercial with the person trying to fade the clothes to make it look like they were wearing them and it never faded after several washes.

    Anyway, the question is has anyone used retayne to keep clothes from fading?
    Thanks, Jenny
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    Old 06-29-2011, 06:20 AM
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    Originally Posted by Prism99
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    Can anyone tell me how you go about using this product on a queen size quilt......With a front opening washer??! I have a black, white, and red BB2 that I would like to use it on, but........
    Yikes!!! You ***never*** want to use Retayne on a finished quilt! If anything bleeds, Retayne will permanently set the bleed! Retayne should only be used on fabric yardage, not on a finished quilt.

    Most likely what you want to use is Synthrapol, which suspends unset dye particles in the water so they can be rinsed away instead of settling into other fabric.

    Ordinarily, to wash a queen-size quilt, I would take it to the laundromat and use their largest front-loading washing machine. However, when you are using Synthrapol, you really need as much water as possible in order for all of the unset dye particles to stay in the water. For that you need a top-loader. However, you also need to be able to skip the agitation cycles; I'm not sure you can do that in a laundromat. You might need to find a friend or relative with a top-loader.

    With a top-loader, what you want to do is half-fill the tub with water, add the Synthrapol and mix it in, then add your quilt and the rest of the water. Stop the machine so it does not agitate (hard on the quilt), and hand agitate instead by pushing down on the quilt. (Because Synthrapol requires hot water, you may need rubber gloves for this.) After you have hand agitated, skip forward to the spin cycle and spin out the wash water. Fill with rinse water, again stop the machine and hand agitate, then skip ahead to the spin cycle. You want two rinses and spins.

    An important thing to remember is that you do not want damp fabric sitting on damp fabric for any length of time, as this will encourage "crocking" (movement of dye from one fabric to another). It's important not to let the wet or damp quilt sit in the washing machine. When done, immediately spread it out to dry (or tumble dry, preferably in a large laundromat dryer).

    That is how I would do it, anyway.

    Do you have any scraps of the original fabric to test? If so, I would do a test wash on the fabrics all together to get an idea of how much bleeding there may or may not be. You could have anything from a combo that does not bleed at all to a never-ending-bleeding red. A test would give you a lot of information about how careful you need to be. The more bleeding there is, the more water you need with the Synthrapol (and the more Synthrapol you need).
    Excellent info! I wash my large ones in the bathtub, using a white sheet underneath the quilt to lift it out so as not to put any strain on the quilt threads or fabric
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    Old 06-29-2011, 09:32 AM
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    Originally Posted by Barb44
    Originally Posted by bearisgray
    For next time -

    It seems like it would be so much easier - and less nerve-wracking - to have washed your fabrics and gotten the excess color out of them - BEFORE cutting them.
    That is why I prewash all my fabric. No surprises later.
    Exactly my idea also.
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    Old 06-29-2011, 10:15 AM
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    Originally Posted by charlotte37830
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    Originally Posted by jaciqltznok
    I would just test the fabric scraps...might not need to be washed...and if it does need washing..wait until the quilt is DONE and then wash with a couple of dye catchers..much easier...
    Do the "dye catchers" have a name? Where do I find them?
    Can they be used in a front load = HE washing machine?
    I used one called Carbona. It is good for 30 washed and yes I used it in my front load HE washing machine.
    I have seen that at JoAnns - Thank you very much!!!
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    Old 06-29-2011, 12:29 PM
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    A front load washer doesn't ever have the needed amount of water to have the correct ratio of water to Retayne. Either find a friend that has an extra capacity top load washer or go to a laundry mat that has the top load extra capacity. Remember it needs to be washed with very hot water to work, not sure if that can happen at a laundry mat.
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    Old 06-29-2011, 12:35 PM
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    I have used Retayne on a red and white quilt w/red flannel backing that I was concerned about running. I have a very old Magtag wringer washer and I put the correct gallons of very hot water in, added the Retayne and mixed it in, added the quilt and let it agitate for 30 minutes. The water become a very light pink and I was scared to death but as soon as I could I took it out of the water, put it though a rinse and spin in my top loader and dried it damp dry in dryer and then air dried on a rack. Had absolutely no color running at all. THEN and only then did I began to breathe again. LOL
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    Old 06-29-2011, 02:20 PM
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    prism99 thanks for the reply on this one. I always get retayne and synthropol mixed up in my head with which one to use, when and how to use it.

    I've been wanting to get both but haven't yet. Dharma charges like $15 for shipping and there goes my 'fabric $', LOL.
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    Old 06-29-2011, 05:12 PM
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    Just add 1 cup of white vinegar to your wash load and nothing will run. Why pay $$$$ for chemicals that require so much attention. I put it in with the soap and downey and nothing has ever run and I get it by the gallon at the grocery store for just over a dollar!
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    Old 06-29-2011, 06:08 PM
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    Originally Posted by Qwiltylady
    Just add 1 cup of white vinegar to your wash load and nothing will run. Why pay $$$$ for chemicals that require so much attention. I put it in with the soap and downey and nothing has ever run and I get it by the gallon at the grocery store for just over a dollar!
    Wow! This sounds like it would not matter what kind of machine either (high efficiency/front loading)!! Fabulous!! Thank you.
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    Old 06-29-2011, 06:18 PM
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    Vinegar sets some types of organic dyes. The problem with it these days is that almost all fabric is dyed with chemicals that are unresponsive to vinegar in terms of setting the dye.
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