Still need some help on my old singer 327k
10-01-2012, 08:59 PM
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Still need some help on my old singer 327k
Hi!
I have oiled everything i can, and I'm going to let it sit over night but it seems to want to move.
When I try to turn the wheel, it will rock back and forth a bit, but something seems to be stopping it.
Does anyone have any ideas? I can take pics if you need em,
Thanks in advance!!
I have oiled everything i can, and I'm going to let it sit over night but it seems to want to move.
When I try to turn the wheel, it will rock back and forth a bit, but something seems to be stopping it.
Does anyone have any ideas? I can take pics if you need em,
Thanks in advance!!
10-02-2012, 01:49 AM
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When you rock the wheel does it have a metal sound or just not move?
Is there dried up oil in the top part of the inside in the wrench like gizmo?
Have you oiled the needle bar shaft? You want to oil anything that remotely moves
then turn the machine in different directions so the oil will penetrate.
I had one machine with a bent needle bar shaft - nothing would move -
caused by someone pulling really heavy fabric through the machine.
Is the bobbin holder in the wrong position - check manual.
I had one someone had turned the bobbin shaft/bobbin holder just a hair - royal mess.
Is there some tiny little thread wrapped around/wedged in some moving part?
Are the pressure foot/thread cutter in the right positions?
Has someone tried to use the wrong size attachments and thrown the needle bar off timing?
Many things can cause a machine to freeze up. Have you been praying for patience???
Is there dried up oil in the top part of the inside in the wrench like gizmo?
Have you oiled the needle bar shaft? You want to oil anything that remotely moves
then turn the machine in different directions so the oil will penetrate.
I had one machine with a bent needle bar shaft - nothing would move -
caused by someone pulling really heavy fabric through the machine.
Is the bobbin holder in the wrong position - check manual.
I had one someone had turned the bobbin shaft/bobbin holder just a hair - royal mess.
Is there some tiny little thread wrapped around/wedged in some moving part?
Are the pressure foot/thread cutter in the right positions?
Has someone tried to use the wrong size attachments and thrown the needle bar off timing?
Many things can cause a machine to freeze up. Have you been praying for patience???
10-02-2012, 12:15 PM
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My 15-91 would not turn with the wheel, so I took the wheel off, found a piece of leather, a vice grip and a husband. I put more Liquid Wrench on the shaft and turned it on it's side with the wheel area up in the air. Put the leather around the shaft and got the husband, vice grip and had him turn it slowly back and forth, we heard a small crunch and it was free. Added more Liquid Wrench and hand turned the shaff. Let it set for a while and then put everything back together. Turned it on and it started to sew. I wiped everything down and then oiled it.
10-02-2012, 01:27 PM
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My 15-91 would not turn with the wheel, so I took the wheel off, found a piece of leather, a vice grip and a husband. I put more Liquid Wrench on the shaft and turned it on it's side with the wheel area up in the air. Put the leather around the shaft and got the husband, vice grip and had him turn it slowly back and forth, we heard a small crunch and it was free. Added more Liquid Wrench and hand turned the shaff. Let it set for a while and then put everything back together. Turned it on and it started to sew. I wiped everything down and then oiled it.
10-02-2012, 02:12 PM
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One of the sellers that I've dealt with lately has been in the business almost as long as I've been alive (wait - when did I turn 50?! I can't be 50 yet, can I? What, last year? Nooooo!) and he says using a hair dryer gently is the best method he's found for freeing up frozen sewing machines. Caution - don't do this if you've already used something seriously flammable like Liquid Wrench!! Or at least wait until the most volatile of the distillates have evaporated on their own.
10-02-2012, 02:18 PM
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You think using a hair dryer after using something flammable is not fun, my LSMG told me he uses lighter fluid in the motors when they are running sluggish. Says he soaks them (probably the brushes and commutator area although he didn't specify ) then turns the motors on and runs them as the lighter fluid cleans them. I said: "that could make a flash fire couldn't it"? He said, "I've had my eyebrows singed a time or two". Guess what I don't do ...... 
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10-02-2012, 02:24 PM
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You think using a hair dryer after using something flammable is not fun, my LSMG told me he uses lighter fluid in the motors when they are running sluggish. Says he soaks them (probably the brushes and commutator area although he didn't specify ) then turns the motors on and runs them as the lighter fluid cleans them. I said: "that could make a flash fire couldn't it"? He said, "I've had my eyebrows singed a time or two". Guess what I don't do ......
Joe
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10-02-2012, 02:40 PM
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That's friggin scary!
Any way I've put oil in every part I can think of, taken stuff apart and oiled it some more.
When I try to turn the wheel, it makes the gears wanting to move metal sound if that makes any sense.
I'm really sure its been sitting for a long time cause there's rust on some parts.
It only moves a couple hairs when i turn the wheel, it kinda rocks back and forth but only a tiny bit.
I mean you can clearly tell its moving, but that's about it. I haven't seen any thread anywhere, but then again I haven't messed with the bobbin area yet.
But today I noticed that it says it was made it great Britain, does that mean anything special or were they all like that?
Any way I've put oil in every part I can think of, taken stuff apart and oiled it some more.
When I try to turn the wheel, it makes the gears wanting to move metal sound if that makes any sense.
I'm really sure its been sitting for a long time cause there's rust on some parts.
It only moves a couple hairs when i turn the wheel, it kinda rocks back and forth but only a tiny bit.
I mean you can clearly tell its moving, but that's about it. I haven't seen any thread anywhere, but then again I haven't messed with the bobbin area yet.
But today I noticed that it says it was made it great Britain, does that mean anything special or were they all like that?
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