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    Question Damascus Grand Rotary--Need Info!

    I just inherited a Damascus Grand Rotary in a nice cabinet! Unfortunately, I know nothing about this machine! I know it needs a new belt and a good cleaning. If anyone has one of these, can you point me in the right direction for information about parts, downloadable manual, needle & bobbin info, etc.? I haven't been able to find much of anything for this machine and I really need some help!
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    The machine itself looks a LOT like my Daughters Bartlet. It uses the same unusual swing away bobbin cover. Great machine.

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    Oh my oh my did you get a dream machine. Love that wood. I know nothing about that machine, other than how I'd clean and service it. It looks to have features of several brands, so I'll let Jon or someone else who knows more ID it for you.

    I'd be sewing with that one ...... did I say I love that cabinet .....


    Joe

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    I was also thinking that she looks a bit like a "hybrid" machine, and I would love to know where to look for any info that might help me get her sewing like a dream. I know she'll be awesome!

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    I have a Damascus treadle machine - it is from 1925, my Great-Aunt Mae bought it from Montgomery Wards. The bobbin cover is totally different than yours, so it would be there is some difference. If you want to search put it in as "Montgomery Wards Damascus Sewing Machines". They do seem to be a bit rare, not a lot of information out there since they haven't been made for so long and not a popular brand when they were made. My machine sews very well and I have used it to make quilts. I have not "quilted" with it - just pieced and put the binding on.

    Good luck in your search.

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    Hi,

    Your Perdy Damascus Grand Rotary was made by National and sold through MW. Here's a Western Electric manual that should help:
    http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...ges/image8.htm

    Takes a 20x1 needle, you can try a 15x1 scooted down. National SM Yahoo group is a good resource.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsmco/

    Enjoy your new beauty,
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    Did you ever get anywhere with yours? I have one that someone had given to me years ago but has just been moving from place to place with me and it's a little daunting to figure out this new/old machine from scratch.

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    Yes I did and have sewn several quilts with it. I was having trouble finding needles for it but I did find some eventually. PM me if you need additional info -- I would be glad to help you out!

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    Pretty machine! Judging by the cabinet style-it shows a strong Arts&Crafts influence-I'm guessing your machine was made between 1900 and 1920. Now that you've had it a while how do you like using it?
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    trouble and annoyance" Quote from Singer Model 99 Manual

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    The Damascus and Damascus Grand are two on my "wish" list. I don't have a full size VS National made machine, or a regular rotary National made machine. I do have a 3/4 size VS and the two spool. . . .

    Damascus was a "name" used by Wards, along with Burnswick and later Signature. Most of what I've seen (dating from before National went out of business) are National made machines.
    My name is Cathy - and I'm addicted to old sewing machines and their attachments.

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    it's beautiful!

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    Cathy let me know if you're ever out this way, I have a Damascus Grand treadle in nice shape, and it would be good perhaps to thin the herd. Too bad shipping is what it is...
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    Damascus Grand Rotary Treadle, making nice progress!!

    So this treadle, came from another wonderful QB on the Oregon Coast. It was in my garage for awhile, but now it's in my living room now so I have put in on the top of the que (mostly). It is a really nice stitcher and has a wonderful feature for a newbie at treadling. It has an anti-reverse built into the flywheel!! All it needed was a 3/4 " dia. rubber ball, like is used on the Willcox & Gibbs treadle.

    What's cool is, you don't need to use your hand to start sewing, unless the pitman arm to the flywheel is at about Top Dead Center or Bottom Dead Center, then you will need to nudge it just a bit. it's very quiet and smooth machine. It was kinda easy to get a 1/4" seam allowance on some scrap using this attachment.
    I also happen to have another Damascus Grand that is electric in a case. And this pretty Stag Electric from Horn's Dept Store is also a match, it has a swing away HB motor.

    It had no problem sewingl past the piece and starting another, (starters and leaders?). I love it!!
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    Here's the 3/4" dia ball and the pocket it fits into that creates, the anti-reverse mechanism
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    oops! not quite the right pic,
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    I have a similar non-treadle Eldredge (National).

    Very nice cabinet (and machine, too)!

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    Where did you find the ball? All those are nice machines.
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    As the old people trying to be hip would say, "Very Cool!" I thought the treadle ball was unique to Willcox and Gibbs' Automatic. Learn something new every day.

    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Where did you find the ball? All those are nice machines.
    Rodney
    EBay, ;^) very reasonable price
    Jim

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    Oldsew, Great pics! Your pitman rod looks different. Is that a hybrid? What are the parts made of? If ever take apart, sure would like to see pics of each piece of rod. . . If indeed a replacement build. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post
    As the old people trying to be hip would say, "Very Cool!" I thought the treadle ball was unique to Willcox and Gibbs' Automatic. Learn something new every day.

    Jon
    I say that all the time. Those who have met me can tell you I'm not very hip and I'm not making much effort to be either.
    Rodney
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    trouble and annoyance" Quote from Singer Model 99 Manual

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    Reckon I'm speakin for myself then, Pilgrim

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