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Thread: Grover and Baker treadle

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    Sad but BEAUTIFUL!!
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    Top view. Surprising amount of design left, the Silver arms move!
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    Ever seen the underside of a machine like this?
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    Underside of the treadle (transverse wheel)
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    Accessories in the drawer!!!!!!
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    The Wonderful couple at YeeHawAloha Thrift store in Walla Walla Washington.
    (The store raises money for group home projects)
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    So COOL, Steve. If I ever get over to Walla Walla I will make sure I visit the YeeHawAloha Thrift shop.
    Sweet Caroline

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    and the cleanup begins....

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    Let me guess, Steve barely got any sleep last night, for he was up all night tinkering?

    Steve, even your preliminary cleaning is night and day. Just amazing.

    I admit to having giggled at the No-Cleaning-Supplies-In-The-Car.

    Lovely adventure; sounds like much fun for you and your road trip free-spirits. Just love friends like that. My friends think I am weird for having sewing machines; I am not sure any of them would even walk five minutes with me to get one, much less drive 13 hours! ;-)
    -Cecilia. Tinkering more than stitching, really.

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    hehe Thanks. Scott and I have been friends since just after the earth cooled. Heather and my best friend Geoff are the only people that I have known longer....

    I got to bed at about 10pm last night. The siren call of the filthy machine was too great to allow sleep earlier.

    Looking at this machine before I began was like finding an old faded movie starlet wasting away in a bar, and then bringing her into the light for a make-over and a revival of her once glorious self. Silly but really the best analogy I can come up with at this time.

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    So here is the quandary...

    The serial number on the top of the back slide translates to 1867
    The serial number on the bottom of the front slide that matched the serial number stamped on the bed shows 1862
    The cabinet has a brass latch plate which has an 1864 patent.

    So, the quest to understand it's history is on....

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    ever seen a mechanism like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post

    Looking at this machine before I began was like finding an old faded movie starlet wasting away in a bar, and then bringing her into the light for a make-over and a revival of her once glorious self. Silly but really the best analogy I can come up with at this time.

    Hopefully you don't need the "Helmet of Knowlege" that Bones used to reattach Spocks brain on Star Trek to figure out the knotting mechanism.

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    that machine is really something! I'm amazed at the decals too - a lot still there.
    My name is Cathy - and I'm addicted to old sewing machines and their attachments.

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    I have not taken any since I began the underside cleanup, so here are a couple of the underside before cleaning.

    This is the first machine that I have seen with painting details on the underside... Wow...

    NOTE: I especially love the twisted piece of metal that the up and down action works against to create the back and forth rotation of the hook

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    OK, so I am now looking for skinny thread spools.

    This is a TWO SPOOL sewing machine. Is uses TWO threads to make a double chainstitch.

    here is the threading instructions (info culled from a couple sites, I made the document)

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    Very cool! So far the difference in how the machine looks is incredible. I'm glad so much of the artwork is intact on it and that you made the effort to go get it. It's in good hands.
    Rodney

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    Sounds like you will have to possibly turn some spools on a wood lathe.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    Sounds like you will have to possibly turn some spools on a wood lathe.
    Ok, so for some reason that thought never occurred to my dumb butt.... Thanks! (I have a lathe)

    I made a temporary pitman blank last night. It is not NEARLY as cool as the original was but I am working on that later, this will let it be connected and look nice for now.

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    Are needles still available this machine?

    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post
    Are needles still available this machine?

    Jon
    Not sure yet. I am doing the research to determine the type of needle now...

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    Steve, thanks for taking us with you on this one! I am SO glad you took the time to retrieve & restore it. Not many would care enough to do it right, if at all. I am learning a lot, and really enjoying your odyssey.

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    Grover and Baker treadle

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    Not sure yet. I am doing the research to determine the type of needle now...
    Steve,

    I'm wondering if the small spools from one of these "emergency" mending kits will work in this machine -- they are exactly the same size as the one that was in the National Two Spool I ended up with, as far as I know, they will work in my machine. These kits are NOT expensive, nor more than $1-$2, and there are 12 spools in the kit!

    Congratulations on your acquisition! It's really tremendous what all you folks are doing to restore these beautiful old machines!

    Jeanette Frantz

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    So here is the quandary...

    The serial number on the top of the back slide translates to 1867
    The serial number on the bottom of the front slide that matched the serial number stamped on the bed shows 1862
    The cabinet has a brass latch plate which has an 1864 patent.

    So, the quest to understand it's history is on....
    Here is my best guess:

    The machine is from 1862. It stayed in the warehouse until it met its cabinet, and was sold in 1864 or possibly a bit later. Now, choose your own adventure:

    a) Purchased in 1864, the new owner's dog ate the top back slide bit, and they bought a new part at the store.

    or:

    b) The machine was actually in the warehouse until 1867, and the top back slide bit had been knocked off by a clumsy night-shift worker and lost ages ago; the shipping dude then grabbed a new plate from the shiny box of new plates.

    Eh?

    ;-)
    -Cecilia. Tinkering more than stitching, really.

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    lol...

    here is a pic of the area now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanette Frantz View Post
    Steve, I'm wondering if the small spools from one of these "emergency" mending kits will work in this machine -- Jeanette Frantz
    Hmmm the issue is that they appear from the drawing to be normal "height" but 1/2 as wide/thick. Actually a lot like the modern skinny spools (which is what i will try when we are at that stage)

    Steve

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    Steve,

    These spools of thread in the emergency repair kit are nowhere near as large as regular spools of thread. A regular spool of thread would never fit in the National Two Spool Machine! It was just a thought! I know these spools are the same size as the spool in my Two Spool machine!

    Jeanette

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    Once it have the presser foot freed up, that will be part of the testing process! I found last night I have a handful of those mini bobbins...

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    steve,

    wow just plain wow. that's really awesome - let's see , the drive or the machine ? that's a piece of history. love reading all the posts. i am just mesmerized. keep us posted.

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