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Old 11-19-2013, 09:57 AM
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Are needles still available this machine?

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Old 11-19-2013, 10:33 AM
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Are needles still available this machine?

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Not sure yet. I am doing the research to determine the type of needle now...
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:51 AM
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Steve, thanks for taking us with you on this one! I am SO glad you took the time to retrieve & restore it. Not many would care enough to do it right, if at all. I am learning a lot, and really enjoying your odyssey.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:21 PM
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Not sure yet. I am doing the research to determine the type of needle now...
Steve,

I'm wondering if the small spools from one of these "emergency" mending kits will work in this machine -- they are exactly the same size as the one that was in the National Two Spool I ended up with, as far as I know, they will work in my machine. These kits are NOT expensive, nor more than $1-$2, and there are 12 spools in the kit!

Congratulations on your acquisition! It's really tremendous what all you folks are doing to restore these beautiful old machines!

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
So here is the quandary...

The serial number on the top of the back slide translates to 1867
The serial number on the bottom of the front slide that matched the serial number stamped on the bed shows 1862
The cabinet has a brass latch plate which has an 1864 patent.

So, the quest to understand it's history is on....
Here is my best guess:

The machine is from 1862. It stayed in the warehouse until it met its cabinet, and was sold in 1864 or possibly a bit later. Now, choose your own adventure:

a) Purchased in 1864, the new owner's dog ate the top back slide bit, and they bought a new part at the store.

or:

b) The machine was actually in the warehouse until 1867, and the top back slide bit had been knocked off by a clumsy night-shift worker and lost ages ago; the shipping dude then grabbed a new plate from the shiny box of new plates.

Eh?

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Old 11-20-2013, 03:17 PM
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lol...

here is a pic of the area now...
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeanette Frantz View Post
Steve, I'm wondering if the small spools from one of these "emergency" mending kits will work in this machine -- Jeanette Frantz
Hmmm the issue is that they appear from the drawing to be normal "height" but 1/2 as wide/thick. Actually a lot like the modern skinny spools (which is what i will try when we are at that stage)

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Old 11-20-2013, 08:55 PM
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Steve,

These spools of thread in the emergency repair kit are nowhere near as large as regular spools of thread. A regular spool of thread would never fit in the National Two Spool Machine! It was just a thought! I know these spools are the same size as the spool in my Two Spool machine!

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Old 11-21-2013, 08:53 AM
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Once it have the presser foot freed up, that will be part of the testing process! I found last night I have a handful of those mini bobbins...
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:00 PM
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steve,

wow just plain wow. that's really awesome - let's see , the drive or the machine ? that's a piece of history. love reading all the posts. i am just mesmerized. keep us posted.
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