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Thread: I'm laughing, snickering, and guffawing ....

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    I'm laughing, snickering, and guffawing ....

    I'm laughing, snickering, and guffawing .... because my Alden will make better top stitches than my wife's Bernina Record 930. LOL

    She's making shopping bags from denim, using cut up jeans. She puts pockets on the outside then sews on some decorative top stitches around the edge.
    So this morning she's complaining because the Bernina is having trouble with the thread. She's using Coats & Clark Dual Duty Plus Jeans Topstitch thread. I noticed that stuff is about twice as thick as the C&C Heavy thread and the top tension kinda wasn't good. The stitches are sitting on top of the material and the pattern isn't formed quite right.
    We popped the top off the machine and took a look see inside, nothing amiss that we could see.

    So being myself I grabbed one of the spools of thread she was using, put it on the Alden and without touching any of the tensions I started doing decorative stitches. Oh they came out sooooo purtyyyy . Whoo Hoo!

    Well, I did do one thing different: I used a size 18 needle where as she had a 16 in the Bernina.
    I'm pretty sure that had something to do with it as this top stitch thread is way thicker than normal.

    We'll try a size 18 needle in the Bernina and see what happens. If it doesn't help, I think that machine just might be getting a bit finicky. Maybe time for a good cleaning and oiling. Hmmmm, where's my jug of Tri-Flow?????

    Joe

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    Joe, I love your tales of your machines...this is confirmation that older is better!

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    Joe, better watch out with all that laughing...those heavy duty thread spools might just be coming at your head!! LOL

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    I would be just as gleeful as you seem to be! HEE HEE HEE!

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    LOL WTG, Joe!

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    I can see that you really LOVE your Alden. Be nice and do commiserate with your wife and her poor machine. It is called keeping the peace. But I know what you mean. I used my Elna 7300 to do some satin stitch on a small project and what a mess it was. I ended up ripping it out and redid it on my Morse 4100. It outdid the Elna hands down.
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    My wife's Bernina is one of, if not the best sewing machine she's owned. It's a work horse and there is nothing cheap or tinny about it. I do not fault it for the stitch quality in this case due to the thickness of the top stitching thread.
    But, that Alden is something else. It's all steel, I've yet to find any plastic inside and when it runs it's the most solid sounding ZZ machine I have. My 401A sounds like a thrashing machine in comparison.

    I was just being ornery when I was teasing my wife. I'll wager that with the larger needle the Bernina does better.

    Joe

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    Have to admit I love the stitch on the Singer 328 I picked up recently for $15. vs my $2000 Elna. I still love the old steel machines.. cant beat them.

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    I'm with you on the Alden. Very nice stitches. I have one I just cleaned up. I do believe it is old but brand new - not been used much if at all. It is in a very nice cabinet too. I really like it.
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    Miriam, you got an Alden? What model and did you get a manual?

    Joe

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    My Alden looks like a 15 clone - I have 2 a black 3/4 size and a blue one.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Hey, you two are speaking your own language. What??? I've never even heard of an Alden. Joe, is that the machine in the picture on your profile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJinSC View Post
    Hey, you two are speaking your own language. What??? I've never even heard of an Alden. Joe, is that the machine in the picture on your profile?
    DJ, the machine in my avatar is my late mothers HOTHER machine. A 15 clone made by JUKI.
    The Alden is a ZZ machine I got from GW in Indianapolis some months back. You can read about it in this thread:
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...e-t184975.html Pictures too.

    Miriam,
    I've not seen any pics of the Alden 15 clones. Even Relics doesn't list Alden. They list Adler but not Alden.
    I still haven't found a manual for it or any information either.

    Joe

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    Ok I should shoot a pic - maybe it is an Adler. It is no doubt a clone of something though.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    I was right aways thinking she needs a bigger needle in there. Let us know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJinSC View Post
    Hey, you two are speaking your own language. What??? I've never even heard of an Alden. Joe, is that the machine in the picture on your profile?
    A Japanese 15 or 15 Clone - check out this: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html most of these pictured are Japanese 15. Some people put up pics of Japanese ZZers which are a bit more complicated. There are a few machines with the tension on the nose that are NOT Japanese 15s.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Joe, I read the thread you sent from your post in April. What a pretty machine! Sounds like you have an interesting hobby with all those older machines. I'm new to this Board and will pay attention to your posts in the future.

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    DJ,

    Here is a larger picture of my HOTHER.

    It is a perfect example of what we call the 15 clones. With a few differences it's almost the same as a Singer Mdl 15-90. They are excellent machines for the most part, are all metal (cast iron and steel) and will with reasonable maintenance last yours and your grand kids life.
    This one was my mothers and I remember her using it way way back. So far back I can't remember her not having it. And I'm pushing 60. The old machine still sews beautifully.
    This one was made by JUKI.
    It says on the decal in the center of the bed: "Esto Perpetuum". Not sure what that means, but it sounds good.

    I found a language translator. It translates "Esto Perpetuum" as "Be Unbroken". Latin to English. That fits this machine for sure.

    Joe
    Last edited by J Miller; 05-17-2012 at 05:35 AM.

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    Joe, that's a really beautiful machine and I know you treasure it because it was your mother's. I have my mother's treadle machine, but haven't tried to use it. We just use it as a table and I love just having it. I also have the first sewing machine my parents gave me in high school. It is a Singer--probably about 1973 or so. I haven't even opened the case since I started quilting about 9 years ago and bought a Bernina. Lately I've been thinking about it because I think it's steel and sturdy and maybe now that I know a little more about sewing I could make it work for me.

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    DJ,

    That poor treadle, being used as a table ....... I can relate to that. I have three treadles and three electrics in cabinets and they are always burried with stuff .... or the cats are sleeping on them. I make covers to protect the wood.

    Do yourself a favor, take out the Singer, open up the treadle, and use them. They get sluggish and difficult to use after they've sat for a while. Might need to oil them up really good. As much as I like my electrics, I get a lot of pleasure from my treadles. Especially my two 66s.

    Joe

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    Joe,

    I have alot going on right now, but I will do that. Can't take on anymore projects right now, but I know I'll be glad to see what I can do with these machines. I might be contacting you with questions. Thanks!!

    DJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJinSC View Post
    Joe,

    I have alot going on right now, but I will do that. Can't take on anymore projects right now, but I know I'll be glad to see what I can do with these machines. I might be contacting you with questions. Thanks!!

    DJ
    Any time. I'll be glad to help as much as I can.

    Joe

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    Too funny!
    If a woman's work is never done....why start?

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    I have a Household that I hang on to for the same reason. It weighs a ton but I swear that thing would just about sew a car bumper.. I have never put anything under the foot that didn't go through like butter. :-)

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